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Good.  The legal assistant position will give you better insight.  Hopefully you're working for a small firm and not necessarily doing transactional stuff.

Law School Admissions / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: September 25, 2010, 02:58:37 AM »
Good lord, people... 

I'm pretty sure netiquette requires no formality beyond keeping insults to a minimum.

Anyway, getting into YLS is (IMO) semi-random at best.  Playing it safe guarantees nothing, but rolling the dice just might work.


That was said with tongue planted firmly in cheek.  That is what the "wink" was about.  It was praise through irony.

Relax, not everyone is mean-spirited.

Law School Admissions / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: September 24, 2010, 09:00:21 PM »

I agree with Mr. Lund.  The idea is both bold and empowering.  Being a splitter like you are, with Yale, ya got absolutely everything to gain and nothing to lose.

You just may be the splitter that gets to BE a Yalie.  You BASTARD!

Online Law Schools / Re: Concord School of Law
« on: September 24, 2010, 08:54:40 PM »

Just to pile on here.  I was stationed for years in California, mostly out of San Diego.  Having earned a mediocre GPA, but nonetheless holding a degree, I looked hard at the Calbar and online schools.

The reality is that the practice limitations are staggering.  The ABA reciprocity is not universal.  As you know, typically if you are a member of the CALBAR for 5 years, many states will allow you to take their bar exam. 

Long story short?  I saw just how many states do NOT allow non-ABA grads to ever take their bar that I discarded the notion of attending the "College of Law at the Universal Love University of What's Happenin' Now"

Screw it.  I believe all potential attorneys in California should do what you did and suck it up and go to an ABA law school.   

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How much should scholarships matter?
« on: September 24, 2010, 08:46:13 PM »

It has always been (and will always remain) the fact that success in ANY field can be attributed to: ABILITY, PASSION, and the two most important things: HARD WORK and NETWORKING.

I am only a 2nd term Junior (law school in 2012), and am already building a solid network in the local legal community.

My distinct advantage is the 25 years plus of real world grinding (and kicks in the ass) that have gotten my head properly in the game.
I agree with you that maybe T-14 makes a difference.  But after that, it's all about what you do with what you have.

just MY two cents (make that a PENNY with inflation)

Law School Admissions / Re: Disclose non-conviction misdemeanor?
« on: September 24, 2010, 08:31:44 PM »
I will simply tell you what my ethics professor told our class about things like this.
When it comes to the Bar:  DISCLOSE, DISCLOSE, DISCLOSE.

Better to let the Bar decide what it will overlook, it is BAD juju when you are found to have witheld information on your Bar app.
The professor I am talking about is also an officer of the Florida Bar (and we are an integrated Bar-membership and licensure are mandatory), and president of the local bar association.

Hope this helps.

Florida / Re: Defending my brother. Need help!
« on: September 24, 2010, 08:24:40 PM »
NOTE FOR POSTERITY (and people new to the legal field)

NO ONE who is an unlicensed attorney may represent anyone other than themselves (Pro Se), or give legal advice of any kind.  There are exceptions, of course, but these are most associated with federal agencies, NOT criminal courts.

This is called "The Unauthorized Practice of Law (or UPL)."  In my home state, Florida, this is a 3rd Degree Felony (i.e. go up the river, do not pass go, no law school, etc etc,)

The OP himself, however well intentioned, was not well advised to try to "put together a defense," especially on a public internet board.  I am glad that no one responded.  It shows the savvy that most of us here aspire to.


Florida / Re: Where`s FIU?
« on: September 24, 2010, 08:18:07 PM »
I'm visiting FIU and UM next Thursday.  Should I pick out some pennies from the fountain for ya?  ;)

FIU is basically my fallback choice, best "value" T4 in Florida.  FAMU is just too shaky for my taste (along with terrible bar passage stats).

P.S. I live in Clearwater (Tampa Bay area).  Anyone wanting local info (i.e. STETSON) can PM me.

Mr. Messinger is the BEST mentor around.  Thane, I hope you believe in karma, because your efforts to "pay it forward" are quite apparent.  Here's hoping that good karma comes back to you in waves!

I am 25 and my mother died in July of cancer and I am prepping for the LSAT through the grieving process, etc. HOWEVER, I have always wanted to go to law school and I think at the very very least you should wait until you clear your head more before you decide if you want to take out tens of thousands or more in debt at 37. Plus, if you don't find it very interesting, think about either have to live solely on student loans OR work and go to school and your life will be HECTIC even with a part-time program. And if you're studying something that you don't like a lot and are busy as hell, your life will feel like hell for a few years, in my opinion. It doesn't sound like it's a good match for you. Money is nice, but I intend on doing a four year program and am dreading being at youngest 40 before it's all gone unless I make it big somehow and can just dish out the loan repayment. You're 37 and you don't even like law. PLUS, law isn't like it used to be. Sure, it pays a decent salary but expect that you could make in the 50's or 60's for a long time, possibly forever. It's much more likely these days to stay at that salary than ever make 100K plus..AND Don't assume you will get a scholarship because you don't have any resources and had a 3.97 GPA. What if you bombed the LSAT? No money. You might get in, but NO MONEY. And, remember how broke all of the "traditional" students are nowadays? Well, that's my two cents and sorry for your loss, I know how it feels. I loved my mother very much too. The only reason I am gambling with law school (which is a huge gamble) is because I already have worked in law as a paralegal and know what it is and have desired to be a lawyer since age 10. I don't know what you like, but if you want a solid career with possible scholarships, etc. you should become an accountant or study computers. Healthcare and engineering are also in need but I don't know how much you want to start over with your education or what skill sets you have or if you were a broker/financial advisor or investor. If you were a financial advisor, perhaps you should consider being a compliance person for brokerage firms and subsequently an expert on securities law suits. No law school debt or time burden required.


Re-read the post above.  I totally agree with MEMEME.  I am a (newly minted) paralegal headed to LS because it is what I have always wanted to do.  In fact, I was already making in the 60's as a middle manager and am quite aware that will be close to what I'll probably make as an attorney.  The point, you don't care as much if you LOVE what you do.

Without that passion, PLEASE listen to MEMEME and wait and think before wasting time, effort and money on something that is not your passion.  Please take my advice.  I am a retired naval officer, 46 years old.  I wouldn't steer you wrong and none of us are patronizing you.  Best wishes in whatever endeavor you choose.

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