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« on: September 27, 2010, 01:00:47 PM »
You done SCREWED UP. Who needs a stinkin bachelor's degree? Why didn't you skeedaddle over to Everest and take that CSI course? I heard they're hiring MILLIONS of people for HUNDREDS of jobs.
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:41:23 PM »
I think most poor souls here are blasted by a tsunami wave of cynicism about LS and the legal field already. I never have been one to give more
than cursory attention to naysayers. These folks are usually not the doers....
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:33:03 PM »
Check out Florida International University (FIU) in Miami, FL. It is a very inexpensive school that has a strong Hispanic and International contingent. It is a tier 4 school, but a pretty good value.
I personally think you should aim higher. You may be pleasantly surprised at the feedback you get.
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:29:49 PM »
I am a newbie at this and FAR from an expert. That said, I would think you would stand a strong chance at all Tier 4 schools, most Tier 3 schools, and a handful of Tier 2.
Just being a classical "splitter" (meaning typically low GPA, high LSAT), along with your diversity status and work experience should be strong factors in your favor.
Your personal statements and recommendations will be very important in your case.
Good luck. Stick around here on the various boards. You'll learn quite a bit, as I have.
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:21:06 PM »
Bird in hand though, Bro. Congrats.
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:19:57 PM »
I was thinking about that myself. Consider this: simply through being #3 or so of 550 students in my ABA paralegal program (and easily recognizable as the old bald dude with the goatee) has led to a handful of very powerful mentors, a paid internship that is much more like a LS summer associate position, and one or two whispered opportunities WHEN (not if) I finish law school?!?
The fact that this is my story is CRAP. Who cares? I never intended to work as a paralegal, I simply wanted to get a "hands on" perspective before going to law school.
The point is that it DOES happen in the "experienced" paralegal field. Many sharp paralegals actually do make the jump, and when they do, they are already networked better than most T-14 stud-muffins.
There is one PI firm here in the Tampa area that prominently features one of their female attorneys (She's a babe, of course) on their ubiquitous roadside billboard ads. That woman was actually a paralegal at the same firm for ten or so years before going through Stetson's PT program. I'll even wager that the firm may have paid half or all of her tuition.
It happens. That is why I think that a global shift to include this path through "apprenticeship" is something from the past that is may be worthwhile bringing back on a larger scale.
« on: September 27, 2010, 12:04:12 PM »
Morton & Bigs,
Allow me to take a flier here. Just imagine a revolution in the LS game: A throwback to actually reading the law. Imagine the guts, determination and intelligence it takes to grind out four years under the supervision of a [probably] very busy supervisory attorney. All of that work leading to the same bar exam we see today.
Not possible? I'm not sure about it. Consider this: Is it not rather universally acknowledged that experienced paralegals tend to do well in LS? Is that book smarts? I rather think it is a combination of practical legal, self discipline and time management skills that propel them to success. Why not consider something like the Physician Assistant program? Let's say someone with at least 5 years of paralegal experience (and holding maybe a minimum of an Associate degree or equivalent) is eligible to take an exam (maybe like one of the advanced NALA or NFPA certs) that would make them eligible to enter the "Attorney Apprenticeship Program."
Food for thought, eh?
It'd sure rattle the status quo.
« on: September 27, 2010, 11:51:59 AM »
Thanks! You got exactly what I was driving at. I expected you would one of those who would do so. Sure, we play the LS game. That doesn't necessarily mean that we think it is the best game.....
« on: September 27, 2010, 07:18:26 AM »
regarding the above post
PLEASE READ BEFORE EXPLODING INTO RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION:
It's called SATIRE, people. My point is that marginal education industry "scammers" prey particularly strongly during times of economic distress. It's all about "the Benjamins," as they say. Do you notice how many FINE institutions are offering a solid curriculum in "HOW TO BE A CSI?" They always show an obvious person of minority status peering intently into a microscope.
What they don't say is that the person is looking (1000x magnification) at their chances for actually finding employment. I must know maybe 10 young folks (sons and daughters of friends' friends', etc) who were dismal high school students, but are convinced that the Atlanta, New York, or D.C. crime labs will soon be knocking on their door with a wheel barrel of cash.
The sad thing is that public institutions are doing this very same gig with paralegal education. You can just imagine the HUGE DEMAND there is out there for poorly trained semi-literate paralegals.
All of us, especially non-trads like ME should bear this in mind about our pursuit of that J.D. Can we REALLY hack it? If so, are we ready to grind it for years, go into debt, and lose a few more hairs just for the great privilege of choking through the bar exam? How about that employment outlook?
THE MORAL OF THE STORY: As many of the veterans of this board (some of who are now practicing attorneys) say: "Make SURE it's what you really want to do." It's not about the money. Really. Because if that is your sole motivation, you are obviously too stupid to even be an attorney. Applying the laws of probability? I won't even touch on that.
Those of us who are still going to push forward should all make sure our eyes are open. If so, let's help each other out here with both practical information and encouragement.
Good Luck and Good Karma!
« on: September 27, 2010, 06:56:33 AM »
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A GES' TEXTIN' ALL YO FRENS FOR BAIL MONEYWHEN YO COUSIN BEEBEE GOES TO COUNTY.....BE A LAWYER! DEN YOU KIN GO TO DAT "RAIN THANG" WHERE DA JUDGE BE, AN GIT COUSIN BEEBEE OUT! YA KNOW...YOU KIN GIT ALL YO HOMIES OUT, TOO.
Everest Dude: YOU KNOW. YOU SEE THEM FLY ASS HOMIES ON DEM TV LAW SHOWS? THAS' RIGHT! EVEREST IS NOW AFFLIATIN WIT MR. JERRY SPRINGER TA BRING DA LAW TO DA HOMIES! DA JERRY SPRINGER COLLEDGE OF LAW WANTS YOU!
Everest Dude: MAN...IT'S EASY. WHAT YOU WAITIN FO? YOU KNOW DA ONLIEST READIN YOU DO IS WEN YOU GOT TEXTED. WHY NOT READ FO DA BIG MONEY, G? LOOK---AT---THE--SCREEEN---HERE'S DA NUMBA. CALL IT. [under his breath] dumb mutha.....
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