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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Military
« on: October 03, 2010, 03:53:40 PM »
Active USAF here, 7 years in with 3 more to go and then a big decision on whether to do 20 or go guard/reserves and head into Law School.

You should be making that decision now.  Please take advantage of the great officer programs that the USAF has to offer before you leave 10 years on the table.  Be sure to consider another service or stay reserves if you can.  Don't let all that time go to waste.

AGREED.  Don't let that time go to waste.  I am a retired CWO4 who is quite happy to collect VA Ch. 33 along with a nice retirement check...

Job Search / Re: Getting a Job with the Federal government
« on: October 03, 2010, 03:49:17 PM »
There has to come a point when the coddling stops and the real world sets in, and I am not sure we should seek to postpone that point further than we already have.

Morten and Thane,


We do have the benefit of hindsight in this discussion.  I think SOME sort of mandatory national service wouldn't be a bad idea.

We should STOP THE CODDLING much earlier in the educational process, maybe even in the home.  Not EVRYONE is a winner.  Yes, Johnny, there really ARE people who lose!  This is a part of LIFE.  We do a disservice to our youth by instilling in them a mountain of unrealistic expectations.


Thanks.  I would like his contact info.  I sent "thank you" emails to all concerned on my various visits, I'd like to get your learned critical opinion on them, if possible.  I will send via email.

Interestingly enough, I spent any available down time during the trip reading your outstanding book.  I am in the final section, "Getting the Gold."

I'll send you a private email, and possibly a draft of a review of it.  There are pitifully few guides out there that "tell it like it is" like yours and Morten's.  I especially enjoyed your dry sense of humor that often made its way into the book.

Current Law Students / Re: These discussions are killing me....
« on: October 02, 2010, 09:41:46 AM »
THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm taking my Easy Bake Oven and applying to Betty Crocker University.

I really NEED that househusband position now.

I visited the campus this past week during a trip to Miami.  Being a native Floridian, the call of South Beach clubs and the aromas of Cafe Cubano and cigars wafting from Calle Ocho were really not part of the equation for me.  I am pretty familiar with the positives and negatives (yes, there ARE those) of Miami.

I had a pre-planned visit to UM in which I was lucky to be given a tour with just one other prospective student, another non-trad.  The tour was given by a pleasant, intelligent, non-nerdy young 3L. 

As many of you may know, the Coral Gables campus of UM is downright beautiful and the facilities are excellent and plentiful.  The Coral Cables area itself is both vibrant and attractive.  The law school itself is a different story in terms of facilities.  The UM Law physical facilities (with the exception of the law library) reminded me of a rather "adequately" funded public junior college.  Why did I even mention this?  Well for tuition in excess of $38K per year, I think a few upgrades are in order for UM.

That said, the staff were absolutely wonderful, and I had a good impression just observing the interactions amongst the students in the quad.  I was fortunate to have a private meeting with the Assistant Dean of the School, who was both gentlemanly and encouraging.

UM's atmosphere was really laid back when compared to other law schools I have been exposed to.  That could be a plus for some folks.  Overall, it is definitely a school to be considered.  In my opinion, UM's closest competition in-state is FSU.

Job Search / Re: Getting a Job with the Federal goverment
« on: October 02, 2010, 03:53:34 AM »

Just an aside--I really wasn't taking a potshot at the Corps from a comfy armchair in the wardroom.  I was originally an RP, humped through ITS and enjoyed some of the very same wonderful Corps hospitality that you did. The old-timers didn't nickname it "The Crotch" for nothing, LOL. 

Job Search / Re: Getting a Job with the Federal goverment
« on: October 02, 2010, 03:43:31 AM »

Very good observations.  I can attest to many of those difficulties, making 8 deployments in my 22 years.  Like any serious undertaking in life, it tends to have challenges.  I think the best characterization of successful service would be resiliency.  What doesn't knock you out does tend to make you stronger.  The good news is that enlistees can vote with their feet (as you did) at the end of their enlistments.

That said, what I was really talking about was a single enlistment as just one possible alternative for young people.

In terms of serving as a commissioned officer in the JAG Corps, I do have a strong opinion.  JAGs (in general) serve in about the best conditions possible in the military.  Barring any moral objections, a young (or new) attorney that feels that the demands of a JAG would be just "too much" for them should probably not look to being an associate in a large firm either.  I would think 100 hour work weeks are presumably not for those with weak constitutions.

Job Search / Re: Getting a Job with the Federal goverment
« on: October 01, 2010, 04:56:51 PM »
Thane and Marcus,

Your comments give mine a welcome legitimacy.  While the military, of course, is not for everyone, it can be quite an excellent option for some.  I believe, maybe in error, that some high school guidance counselors may be swayed by their OWN politics.  That is sad, because some young folks that have potential are sometimes lost to the streets because of this.

Not every student has the preparation, maturity, or finances to attend college immediately after high school.  The military can be a conduit to provide those very things.

I'm doing the <WAVE> for Lady J, ESQUIRE


LadyJ, where are you practicing?  I am in Clearwater finishing up my 0L year,LOL

Job Search / Re: Getting a Job with the Federal goverment
« on: September 27, 2010, 10:56:28 PM »
As a retired officer, let me share the links for the various service branches JAG Corps:


You wonder about compensation?  I started in the early 1980's as an enlisted man, and
retired 22 years later as a Warrant Officer.  My final annual salary(plus benefits) was in excess of $100K

I now receive about $35K annually in retirement, plus medical benefits. Did I mention that this began
at age 42?

Not a bad option for some.

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