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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Summer Income
« on: August 17, 2012, 05:36:22 PM »
No; full time.  For me its UIUC/Tier I or bust.  I have to attend a state-funded university to get the freebie tuition.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Summer Income
« on: August 10, 2012, 06:05:57 PM »
Thanks for the feedback.  I'm an incessant planner and I like to see the "bottom line" of things before I jump in with both feet.  I guess my biggest revelation here is that paid summer internships aren't required...nor may they be available. 

I was initially under the impression that ABA rules prohibited work for 1Ls, but I must have read the wrong publication.  Chapter 3...Standard 304..."(f) A student may not be employed more than 20 hours per week in any week in
which the student is enrolled in more than twelve class hours."

I have plenty of transferable skills, so I'll be in good shape to shovel poo, or whatever I need to do to avoid LS debt!

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: Summer Income
« on: August 09, 2012, 06:16:47 AM »
Paid interneship in today's job market? I hope you can it into JAG when you graduate at least you will have a job then.

I'll be retired from the military...hanging up my bars after 22 years.  I've seen enough combat and time away from the family to consider JAG.  Besides, it isn't an option for me due to age.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Summer Income
« on: August 08, 2012, 06:00:03 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen:

My law school journey hinges upon an ability to support my family (of six) while attending.  My spouse is a schoolteacher and I will have a decent military pension coming in, but our recent stab at a budget has indicated that health insurance and living expenses will consume a great deal of our assets.  Tuition is free to me under the Illinois Veteran's Grant (in any state funded IL target is UIUC).

I understand that 1Ls are not allowed to work---nor should they, I suppose.  Can someone advise me on what a 1L/2L might expect to earn (if anything) during his or summer internship experience? 

I look forward to the discussion.  Thanks.


Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: In a holding pattern...
« on: December 03, 2011, 07:07:25 PM »
Good enough; thanks Jon.  I definitely have the time to complete the program--and it is free!

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / In a holding pattern...
« on: December 01, 2011, 06:57:34 AM »
Ladies and Gentlemen:

Background: I have served 18+ years in the US Marine Corps and was recently selected for one more promotion.  I can retire with a decent pension in two years, but for pay purposes, I'm sticking it out to the 22-year mark.  The next four years will definitely require me to move the family to the Mojave Desert of California, where I will leave them while while I deploy back to Afghanistan (for my fourth combat deployment).  You can probably imagine that the thrill and excitement of the job don't appeal to me as much as they used to; the writing is on the wall that it will soon be time to retire.  Nowadays, I find myself reading about, talking about, and researching my law school prospects.  Thanks to Thane Messinger, I now understand where I am going and how I will get there.   

Knowing what I do now, I'd hate to 'waste' the next four years twiddling my thumbs just waiting for that retirement date.  With this in mind, I looked into a couple of MA (Distance ED) programs, which I might be able to complete prior to my USMC--LS transition.  The one which stands out to me is the Legal Studies M.A. from University of Illinois, Springfield.  As an Illinois resident/veteran, all my tuition and fees for a state-funded university are waived.  So, my next 120 S/H of school are essentially FREE...including LS (if I go to one of the state-funded LS in Illinois).  UIUC is my target LS.

I realize that the UG GPA/LSAT are the most important admissions factors and I believe that my bases are covered there.  What I am wondering is if this or any type of MA program worth the effort in the long run (such as in LS/or in the career itself); or should I be focused elsewhere?  Recommendations?

Try this link:

Asst Dean Paul Pless addresses the DS issue in a interview...

"TLS: Does Illinois accept diversity statements if one didn't initially send one along with the expected personal statement? Would you recommend doing that?

If you think you have something else to add to your file that is relevant to our decision, sure. Make sure it is concise."


"We use the term diversity broadly to include all aspects of human differences, including but not limited to socioeconomic status, race, ethnicity, language, nationality, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, geography, disability, and age."

Unless your dental phobia qualifies as a 'disability', I doubt that this qualifies as diverse, as defined by LSAC.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: JD/MBA
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:30:20 PM »
Thanks for the clarification and I apologize if I seemed a bit callous in my reply.  I assume you are applying to UIUC?

You should honor your father and his service by utilizing this benefit to the maximum extent possible. 

Good luck to you. 

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: JD/MBA
« on: October 21, 2011, 11:14:29 AM »
I think what the OP is referring to is the Illinois Veteran's Grant (unless I'm mistaken).  I'm banking on using that to fund my LS education after 22 years of active service, but I fail to see why a Vietnam Veteran's child would rate to use this.  With all due respect, I'm curious which program the OP is referring to. 

Please advise.

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