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Law School Applications / Re: engineer who wants to be a lawyer
« on: July 29, 2012, 11:21:56 PM »
Short answer is that it is hard to say. The general consensus is that las schools are very numbers focused, and you are what would be considered a splitter. Your LSAT score is obviously great and that will help a lot, your GPA is good for someone who actually took difficult courses, but the competition you will be facing for entry have mostly focused on basket weaving and/or other worthless stuff, and many will have very nice GPAs despite having little to no useful knowledge or skills.

Recent stories have discussed a reduction of applicants to law schools, and assuming that this trend continues, it will likely help you and anyone else considering heading to law school.

Your papers, leadership roles and graduate degree will generally be considered soft factors, that could help, but it does not seem to bend the curve very far. In normal times, splitters are hard to predict, but these do not appear to be normal times. I would suggest applying broadly to those places that you are interested in, I strong suspect that you will be able to find multiple acceptances in the top 20. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say that Northwestern, Georgetown, & George Washington would all show up as acceptances. As you drift down the scale some, I would fully expect that scholarship offers will be made, and some may well be considerable, but once again being a splitter will make your cycle hard to predict.

If you have not already done so I would suggest taking a look at:

Law School Predictor
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com

Law School Numbers
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Happy Hunting!

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Is Harvard the best college?
« on: July 26, 2012, 04:49:12 PM »
Well, my father's college may have no relevance to this thread, but, in terms of admission to Harvard, it does.  See, this is from Harvard's website:

"Are a student's chances of admission enhanced if a relative has attended Harvard? 
The application process is the same for all candidates. Among a group of similarly distinguished applicants, the daughters and sons of College alumni/ae may receive an additional look. "

That does not change the fact that neither of the two schools at Harvard that offer bachelors degrees will grant admissions to someone who already holds such a degree. There are numerous graduate programs, that range from being exedingly difficult to gain entry into, to those that are fairly accessible.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Is Harvard the best college?
« on: July 26, 2012, 01:25:55 PM »
By the way, what does "Ice tea is wet" mean? 
It is a statement that has no relevance to the thread, in the same way your father's college has no relevance.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Is Harvard the best college?
« on: July 25, 2012, 11:20:01 AM »
But my dad graduated from Harvard in the 60s!
???
Ice tea is wet.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Is Harvard the best college?
« on: July 24, 2012, 10:22:16 PM »
I seem to recall from another thread that you had mentioned that you had a Bachelors degree, but were considering trying to get a second Bachelors.

As I understand it, neither of the two schools at Harvard that offer Bachelors degrees offers admissions to someone who already holds a Bachelors degree. Although they obviously have a wide variety of graduate programs to choose from.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Will LR eventually just click?
« on: July 24, 2012, 02:18:24 PM »
I am currently reading Powerscore's Logical Reasoning Bible, and so far I am impressed. If you are struggling with LR I would recommend this a a resource.

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For what it is worth George Washington Law will not even put someone on academic probation until their GPA drops beneath 1.67, a quick look around other schools, this does not look to be unusual.

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Academics/degrees/JD/Pages/acreg.aspx

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Pre-Law in high school / Re: DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL!!!
« on: July 13, 2012, 10:41:25 AM »
@PSA,

I find your (relative) support for night school to be an interesting angle (disclaimer: I am a non-trad considering a night school program, because I am finding my job/career/field is getting moving into an era where law/policy/contract details are becoming more important factors). I am a big fan of the idea that many of the great opportunities in the near future (e.g. next 30-50 years) will be an the intersection of multiple disciplines, and those people that find successful combinations of skills across disciplines can be in a nice position to capitalize.

An obvious downside to this is the amount of time and effort this takes. Not only does one need to develop skills in multiple fields, be prepared to stay relevant in these area, and the need to make and maintain contacts across said fields. It makes me tired just thinking about it.

One generic modification I would suggest to your career advice would be for those people who are starting out to consider things outside their region. There is no reason to limit your opportunities due to happenstance of your current residence.

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Pre-Law in high school / Re: DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL!!!
« on: July 12, 2012, 08:32:58 PM »
On the other hand, the job market will indeed pick up in ten or fifteen years when the boomers retire as another poster mentioned.  But, who can wait so long?  Also, boomers will be retiring from every industry, not just law.

I still advise against the law to young people in high school planning their careers.
So your recommendation to the young folk out there is what... be born at a different time, place yourself in some form of stasis? Simply avoiding something is not much of a plan, offering suggestions of something that you suspect would work is likely to be much more useful.

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It is still early in my process, but a few things that I have found useful.

Seeing the common question format for the LR questions (as described in the LR Bible) helps me to be better prepared to disassemble the question in a timely manner. Learning that I have roughly 80 seconds per LR question, and trying to become familiar with that chunk of time so I have a better feeling for how I am doing on time.

Other areas of general comfort have come up. My diag exam was one of the few times I had used a wooden #2/HB pencil for more than a few seconds in many years. I discovered two things, one being that I did not like the pencil I used for the diag, and two, that spending several hours completing a test with a writting utensil you dislike can cause hand discomfort. Not the end of the world, but who needs another distraction?

So I decided to do a bit of research and try out pencils that seem to be highly recommended. To ensure I am getting plenty of exposure to these pencils I have started using wood pencils for all my general writting needs. I have gotten more comfortable, regained some lost skill in managing the edge of the lead as I write, and more fluid with sharpening when the need arises.

The other adjustment I have made, has been to acquire an analog watch. It had been a long time since I had last used one on a regular basis. By using it daily for the next year or so, I am hoping to lessen the chance for confusion/mistakes. I choose a Seiko automatic dive watch for the bezel to aide with tracking time on the exam, and while the automatics are not as accurate as the quartz watches, they are not dependent upon batteries. I would much rather be off by 3-5 seconds over the course of a 35 min exam (a variation that would be extremely unlikely w/ an automatic watch), then to face the (also extremely unlikely) battery failure during an exam.

 All small stuff, yes, but small stuff that is fairly easy to address, and can help with my comfort when it comes to test time. I liken it to a forced march, anything that rubs or irritates in the first few miles, runs the risk of being a bloody mess at 25+ miles if you do not deal with it (I sereved as a Marine in a infantry unit back in the early 90's). 

No need to feel doubt, this is a very structured exam. If you apporach it like any military instructor would apporach a process they were to develop a training class for. Identify the elements, break down their functions to the simplest instructions you can, then drill the troops on these instructions. As progress is made, then start combining the pieces and you will be ready to roll.  Even though you will be busy, you have enough time to perform a deep dive and get a really good look at how this is put together.

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