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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vermont Law?
« on: May 29, 2012, 01:19:01 PM »
Aww, be nice. His path is likely more difficult than that of a HSY grad, but its still doable. T1s aren't on the table for everyone. You need to understand that.

If I were you OP, I'd look into Maine. Not just because I like Maine as an institution (the fact that the fluctuate between T2 and T4 means they don't care about rankings- a huge intellectual and functional advantage for them).  Plus there are a few more things Maine has going for it. I'm not sure if they have much of a market in VT, though.

Where do the majority of VT lawyers go?  I realize that because its VT there will be a hodgepodge, that can be good and bad.  The observations you made are true of most less populated areas. Connections are the key.  Personal connections.  Is networking more difficult at a school like VLS? Probably.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Just over it...
« on: May 29, 2012, 06:00:36 AM »

I'll be honest which carries the consequence of being mean. Admittedly, I don't want to be mean but...

Even just reading the redundancy and dead ending in your post is frustrating. I don't really know, obviously, but you may be pushing too hard for such small benefit. Law school is frighteningly expensive- 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars, nickle and dimeing to a total of only a few thousand is pointless.  Not to mention, you're treating them like they are fools.  Of course, 1k won't mean you can't attend when you're borrowing 40k a year.  Do you really expect anyone to buy that?

If scolly money is really such a big deal, go to the T2.  I get the sense you want the best deal you can get- best.  No one ever maxes "best" there are always sacrifices and lost opportunity.  If they already said no, using the T2 as leverage now might provoke a "fuc.k this guy" response from admissions.

I don't want to be mean and I have never personally been in this situation. Just how it seems from my perspective.  How do you think it seems from theirs? Good luck.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3 denials 7 still out
« on: May 28, 2012, 03:50:45 PM »
 Congrats, you have debt and a job? You're a winner?

General Off-Topic Board / Re: mittster: satan?
« on: May 28, 2012, 03:48:10 PM »

God must want poor to be poor and rich to be rich. Mitt knows that, he's chosen.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Just over it...
« on: May 28, 2012, 03:34:08 PM »
Too early in the game to give up.  Gotten (:)) of the waitlist chances go down after June. June, though, is when most schools really filter down their lists.

A grammar poke?  you can do better than that.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vermont Law?
« on: May 28, 2012, 02:59:00 PM »
I was just wondering the answer to this question.  Thing is, oddly, VLS may not have a market in VT.  The cost and remoteness makes me suspect VLS is one of those regional schools without a region, like Wiedner Harrisburg.

I had a friend who went there.  Where was he from and where is he practicing?  KY and GA, respectively.

I'd look up where attorneys in firms in VT went to law school.  I suspect most did not go to VLS.  Probably the NE in NE lower tuition state schools, like Maine or UConn or maybe even FP.

My friend loved going there though, but the cost- Good God. GL.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 3 denials 7 still out
« on: May 28, 2012, 02:48:38 PM »
The circular logic through me. Congrats on having no debt and no job. You're a winner. :)

I'll admit I don't know too much about CUNY.  I've heard if you want to do public interest in NYC, that's the place to go. I wouldn't call CUNY a "no one gets a job" school, like Cooley or Appalachian.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Just over it...
« on: May 28, 2012, 01:40:11 PM »
Given up? You'll probably get an answer in the next week or two.  They usually settle out the most of 1L class by mid June.

As to it being good that a school tries to rank up and waitlists tons of people- I have the opposite opinion on that one, bad sign. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: When will schools be stopped from doing this?
« on: May 28, 2012, 12:56:38 PM »
You gots a good point. ;)

Attrition is bad, however. Very bad. Kicking out significantly more that 35-40% of those who enroll? Dude!!! Over a 50% chance of being kicked out. What kind of person risks those odds on this level- A fool or ignoramus perhaps? I'm calling you neither, but there are other less appealing explanations for high attrition, than simply weeding out the stupid.

Another is abusive tuition policies.  Using an ABA example, it is possible for the same person to, in different dimensions, fail out of Cooley via the harsh curve or graduate from Harvard via a better curve.  The only thing that is different is a single LSAT score.  Policies kill people, while different policies raise the same individual.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, is a red flag of a "bad" school over high attrition. 

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