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General Board / Re: 1L Legal Writing Prep
« on: May 20, 2012, 04:49:17 PM »
Get a copy of The Elements of Style by Strunk and White. It can be found on Amazon from $3 to $10. It's not long and it's easy to read. Study it. Make certain you understand it. It will help you all through law school.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Baby Bar
« on: May 19, 2012, 04:06:43 AM »
My understanding was that the baby bar was only required for students who attend unaccredited schools, study in judges's chambers, etc. Who else would have to take it to continue?

First-year students who don't achieve a minimum GPA of 2.0 in the core subjects of criminal law, contracts and torts can be required to pass it before being allowed to continue.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Baby Bar
« on: May 18, 2012, 12:27:35 AM »
I have no doubt that most of the people who pass 1L with more or less good grades would also pass the baby bar without much more difficulty.

Subjective, at best.  I would really like to see if it would be true.  I say ALL 1L students should have to pass the Baby Bar to proceed on to the next levels, no matter which school you attend.

Fair enough. The sad thing for me is that some of my best friends in 1L had to take the baby bar to continue, and I understand that passing it has been pretty difficult for them.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Baby Bar
« on: May 17, 2012, 12:03:51 AM »
The thing about the pass/fail ratio of the baby bar is that a substantial percentage I would assume the majority of the people who take it are former law students who struggled to get satisfactory grades on ordinary law school exams. If this assumption is correct, then most of the people who take the test go in the door with trouble applying the law to fact patterns. So of course, the test seems hard. But I've seen some baby bar fact patterns. They didn't look any harder to me than the final exams I took at the end of 1L. I have no doubt that most of the people who pass 1L with more or less good grades would also pass the baby bar without much more difficulty. (This may not be true for those who passed with only marginal grades.)

That said, a certain percentage who fail the baby bar probably don't prepare properly for it. Whichever category you fall into, if you need to pass the baby bar to continue your legal education, I would recommend paying for a personal, professional tutor who will keep you focused on a program of study that works, which means that you will write practice exams over and over until you're dizzy, and who will give you feedback and instruction on what you're doing wrong.

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Job Search / Re: For all those who cry about our jobs stats......
« on: May 15, 2012, 12:26:29 AM »
Nicely said, Cher. You're the first person I've ever seen on the internet who has said that a 4.0 isn't that impressive. I couldn't agree more. People who don't have to work while they attend school ought to be getting a 4.0, or something awfully close to it. I mean, good grades are child's play when work doesn't stand in the way. Anything over a 3.0 gpa that a person can manage while holding down a job to pay one's own way is infinitely more impressive than a dorm student getting a 4.0.

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I can get on board with that, Holmes.

Fortook, yes, I watched every episode. The one about asking Anderson for his daughter's hand was hilarious.

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Okay, Fortook, I just have to weigh in here. Beavis & Butt-head is definitely an epic show! Those were some of the funniest things I ever saw, bar none. B&B don't get the credit they deserve for being two of the best actors ever to hit the big time.

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I agree with Nova. I love studying law, but as a law student, TV shows about lawyers are mostly unbearable. It's the same when I watch movies about the Marine Corps. I can't sit there without noticing every little thing that the actors do wrong like when the officer salutes the enlisted man instead of the other way around, or when the private talks back to a captain. This does not happen in real life. Ever. TV makes being an attorney appear glamorous, but in my experience, most attorneys are rather ordinary, if bright, people.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Contracts...kill me now
« on: April 29, 2012, 08:38:56 PM »
Why bother?

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Contracts...kill me now
« on: April 28, 2012, 12:07:35 AM »
In most real life scenarios a 70% would be a C at most

Grumpy partner rejoinder:

In real life, 100% is an A;  99% and below is an F.

:)

works good for company pep speaches, along with the flashy power points and free dounuts.
If it were true lawyers wouldn't brag about how great they did at their plea bargins and settlements. In the legal world going to pergatory if soften a "win" since you avoided hell.

Your intended points do manage to crash through, Sollicitus. But in all sincerity, proper grammar and spelling are fundamental to being an effective communicator in the legal field. Yes, this is an informal thread. But if you are a law student, you should be cultivating the habit of identifying and correcting the errors that riddle sentences like the ones above before you post them. Otherwise, how do you expect to establish credibility as an attorney?

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