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"By any means necessary!"  As long as you are reading court opinions, you are also headed in the right direction.

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I bought a package of law school notes from ebay.com.  They are in a zip file.  I broke down and bought a second generation Kindle so that I can put the zip file on it after the notes are saved in pdf format.  I had originally planned to have the law school notes printed out.  But the contracts portion, alone, is 487 pages.  I will use these notes to study for the certified paralegal exam. The other information I am studying is a little outdated.   I think I will finally have the required 500 dollars needed to sit for the exam this September.  I am also working with a couple of inmates on their habeas corpus petitions, pro bono, under the direction of an attorney.  I have decided to work for free so that I can establish a professional reputation before I start looking for a paid position.  Being an attorney would be better.  But, I decided to wake up and smell the coffee:  I just don't have the money to go to law school. 

Have you decided to brief any of the cases in the Gilberts books?  I know that briefing even ten of the cases in each volume will slow you down.  But, the court opinions help me memorize the black letter law because each case states the law as part of the court opinion.  As a result, if you read
enough cases you will have that particular rule of law memorized.  The court opinions also bring the black letter law to life.


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Someone else posted a question about this school in June 2009.  Go back to the previous pages on this forum to see if anyone else has comments about it and send them an email.  Hopefully, they will still be around to help you out.

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It is a wonderful book.  It tells you how to make a presentation so that judges will want to listen to your argument.

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I bought and read Scalia and Garner's book, "Making Your Case."  I like their recommended format for stating an issue.  I wrote an article about interpreting statutes.  It included information from a book that reinforced my understanding regarding how to interpret statutes.

My suggestion to online JD holders to get published was a way to get their foot in the door.  Of course, they will have to prove themselves in the courtroom.  But, who will listen to them unless the potential employer knows how they think; knows that they have some knowledge of the law; and, knows that they can read and write? Don't laugh at the last statement.  I have met some online degree holders who appear to be as illiterate as someone who never completed elementary school.

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Tell that to Justice Scalia, Bryan Garner, Corbin, Farnsworth, the ALI, Prosser.  Most law review articles are written by professors.  And, by the way, Bailey was disbarred.  The only way to become effective at practicing law is to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the law.

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Let's keep in touch to strengthen our knowledge of the law.

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Thank you.  I was trying to be helpful. If you would like to take turns briefing cases and discussing the court opinions, let me know:  passaroa25@gmail.com.  Perhaps, we can co-author a book of briefed court opinions or an article or two.

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There is an online law school, similar to Mid Atlantic, based here in Florida.  Its administrator is an attorney.  I contacted the Board of Education about it and was told that that school is not accredited at all to grant a law degree of any kind.  So, having a law school run by an attorney can also be a scam. 

I think that the whole online law school system is a scam.  Students are flocking to these schools every year believing that all they have to do is study three hours a day for a year and they will pass the FYLSE.  Passing the FYLSE really takes a year of study for a minimum of eight hours a day; two years would be ideal.  In the real world out here (outside of California), Mid Atlantic, Novus, and any one of the state accredited distance learning schools with a California address are the same.  I think that anyone who wants to be a lawyer, should really stay away from any online law school and find a brick and mortar law school near him or her and attend that school.

But, if he/she does not really want to do that, then he/she is stuck with creating his/her own brand.    The online law school degree (from any online law school) is only a beginning. The school's name will not help him/her get his/her foot in the door. Getting published is one excellent way of creating your own brand. 

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I received the news about my second cut in pay just as I was starting on civil procedure. 

Even if you don't plan to do anything more than explore legal concepts right now, it can't hurt to lay some sort of foundation.  Mid Atlantic does not require students to hand in case briefs.  But, there is nothing like a written memorial to show the world what you can do.  Each Gilberts volume cites hundreds of court opinions.  So, just briefing twenty five out of each book is really just a drop in the bucket.  But, you won't be reading opinions that are in the typical law school case book.  Many of those cases are shortened considerably (I spent a year in a brick and mortar law school and ran out of money after the first year.  During that time, there were very few federally funded student loans for law school.).  The opinions you will be reading will come from versuslaw.com or from Google Scholar.    Many full length opinions can be 20 or more pages long.  As a result, you can easily study and brief opinions 10 hours  a day; six days a week.  Even if Mid Atlantic doesn't require case briefs, just having them in a loose leaf binder, ready to send to the California Office of Admissions at any time will benefit anyone who has these files compiled.

Also, get published.  We are lucky that we don't have to send articles to magazine publishers hoping and praying for anything but those inevitable rejection letters.  Just posting on discussion forums like this, means that we are published.  Anyone can get a free webpage from bepress.com and post their unpublished [in a hard copy magazine] articles there.  I am hoping that when I start interviewing for a paralegal position, an  attorney will at least take notice of my webpage and decide to invite me for an interview.  The articles on my webpage are relatively elementary as far as legal analysis goes.  But, I do intend to post at least five more articles [hence, demonstrate more experience] before I start "pounding the pavement."   http://www.works.bepress.com/angela_passaro.

I believe that anyone out there can be an attorney or  certified paralegal with credentials earned online.  We just have to be ten times better than the brick and mortar ABA graduate who was ranked 300 out of a graduating class of 300.  The name of their school will get them in the door.  An online JD graduate's resume "without something more" will just go in the trash or be deleted.

Age is not an issue in law or medicine.  A recent 60 year old JD graduate will just look like a senior partner to a client.

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