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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Novus Law School
« on: October 14, 2010, 11:38:51 PM »
Did you know that in Wisconsin, all they have to do is graduate from law school in that state and the graduates are automatically admitted to the bar?  They don't have to take a bar exam.

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Here is the case about the Concord Law School grad:  Ross E. Mitchell v Board Bar of Examiners, 452 Mass. 582 (2008).  You can also find it on Google Scholar (opinions; not articles).

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Novus Law School
« on: October 14, 2010, 03:12:51 AM »
I think that most of us who post on this discussion forum agree that attending a brick and mortar ABA approved law school is the most preferred method.   However, one of the requirements for a law school to be ABA accredited is that the law school seeking ABA approval much charge an annual tuition amount in excess of a certain amount (in thousands of dollars).  If there was a brick and mortar law school out there, in every state, that was ABA approved and charged 100 to 250 a month on a debit or credit card, for 12 months for all three or four years, there would be no need for distance education or online law schools.  My only concern while attending such a school would be getting through 600 pages of reading a day; not whether my degree, upon graduation, would be worthless.  And, I wouldn't be a member of the distance education section frantically searching for an alternative way to get a law school education.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Novus Law School
« on: October 14, 2010, 02:56:32 AM »
The previous reply said that "even if you get a perfect score on the bar, you still would not be able to practice law in some states." 

If you get a perfect score on the bar exam, wouldn't you be able to practice law in the state whose bar exam you got the perfect score on?

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An online law school graduate was allowed to sit for the Massachusetts bar. There are several cases that indicate that the judges need the plaintiff to prove that he/she really has the necessary knowledge required to be an attorney.   If you read the eligibility requirements for sitting for the bar exam, you will notice that many state bar associations are willing to review an unapproved law school graduate's ability and make a decision on a case by case basis. 

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None of these online law schools have the proper credentials.  However, if you really want a law degree, go for the cheapest online law school.  I say this because any state bar association, for  now, will give you grief for having studied law online regardless of the online law school you studied at.  But,  many state bar associations will let you sit for their bar exams if you can prove you know just as much as, or even more, than a brick and mortar, ABA approved law school graduate. 

You have to keep in mind that you will have to know much, much more than the average brick and mortar law school graduate.  And, you have to establish a reputation for knowledge of the law.  While you are studying at any one of the online law schools,  it will be very helpful to you to publish articles online on various issues of the law; either in a legal repository website or in your own blog that you make public.

Right now I am studying for a paralegal certificate because I have several degrees from brick and mortar schools.  But, I am also working on a J.D. law degree online.  To date, I have only written two articles on legal issues. One was co-authored with another paralegal student from the same school.
I will publish more within the next three years. 

Keep me posted on what you decide to do.  We can help each other get through this.

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Some ABA approved schools provide a limited number of law school courses online.  It's just that none of them advertise (or just don't offer) the entire J.D. program--from the first year through the third year--online.  This means that a law student, enrolled in a brick and mortar school, would be able to take a couple of electives online, through the school he/she is already enrolled in, and receive full credit for having taken that course.

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I think, though, that once you pass the bar exam, regardless of where your JD came from, it doesn't matter what other people think; especially if you read enough cases to become a walking Restatement of the law on Contracts, Property, Criminal Law, Civil Procedure, Torts, Evidence, etc. The legal community is 90% reputation, 10% the law school you attended.

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"Surfing Past the Pall of Orthodoxy:  Why the First Amendment Virtually Guarantees Online Law School Graduates will Breach the ABA Accreditation Barrier" by Nick Dranias, http://law.bepress.com/expresso/eps/1948.

"States that restrict bar eligibility to graduates of ABA-accredited law schools punish graduates of online JD programs because they engaged in online educational communication, devalue educational communication and association over the Internet.  As a result, the amount of protected Internet speech and association is diminished in favor of traditional face-to-face communication and association.

"Such media discrimination is vulnerable to First Amendment attack under theories that seek to protect liberty of circulation, academic freedom, and access to the legal profession."

Just as attorneys were not allowed to advertise years ago; and now they can, maybe being allowed to sit for the bar exam in any state for those of us who study law online might be in our future.

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You don't have to physically be in the school.  You just have to have 26 credits that consist of torts, criminal law, property, evidence, wills and trusts, civil procedure, evidence, constitutional law and any ohter subjects the bar exam tests.  The FCSL LLM teaches all those subjects. 

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