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It's not a matter of suing because of "lies," it's a matter of them squelching personal opinions and free speech (yea, there is grey area as to what is knowing misrepresentation of the truth, what is reporting what was published elsewhere, and what is personal opinion).  In large part these people have only repeated what hundreds of others have said or published about Cooley - this is not about protecting a reputation - believe me, Cooley KNOWS what it's reputation is and how it is viewed in the legal community.  This looks like a SLAPP suit to try and shut people up.  As I understand, they never reached out to the bloggers/commenters and asked them to take down the posts that they felt were lies, they just went and sued.  I've posted this elsewhere - by filing this suit they are experiencing the Striesand Effect and have even MORE people having unflattering discussions about them.

So if people spread lies and you sue, it makes you the F'd up guy? ???

Dang, I hope I don't get raped, I might go to prison with people like you in the voting population. :-X

Duncan - no disagreement on your points.  What you are stating then (if I may) is that law is really just another specialized profession requiring additional education and certification (i.e. pass the bar).  I agree.  If law is not an elite highly-selective profession with a very high bar for admission, schools should stop charging tuition as if it is.  I'm no elitist, I am a t3/4 grad who "survived" financially, personally, and professionally.

Current Law Students / Re: CC Debt/Student Loan Consolidation [C&F]
« on: August 10, 2011, 04:07:09 PM »
This is a non issue.  Don't go around discussing this ($700 in CC debt is not that much in the grand scheme of things), but it is a non-issue.

And what do you suppose the employment status of those unknown/non-replys is?  I would bet it is overwhelmingly "unemployed" or "underemployed." 

Quoted from Wikipedia:  "The Streisand effect is a primarily online phenomenon in which an attempt to hide or remove a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress photographs of her residence inadvertently generated further publicity.
Similar attempts have been made, for example, in cease-and-desist letters, to suppress numbers, files and websites. Instead of being suppressed, the information receives extensive publicity, often being widely mirrored across the Internet or distributed on file-sharing networks."

Here, Cooley sued a blogger and commenters to protect their reputation.  As a result, news of the suit and the claims being made about Cooley have just garnered MORE attention.
Many more people are "discussing" them online and pointing out that they did not retain any Cooley grads to defend themselves.

Current Law Students / Re: Honor code violation - totally screwed?
« on: August 10, 2011, 12:34:49 PM »
This should not be you alone against the school.  Talk to your faculty advisor, get some counsel from an advocate within the school.  Where your advisor will not condone plagarism, it is not his job to punish you for it.  You need what you are going to school to become - an advocate... counsel.  Your best bet may be retaining an attorney to help you through the process.

Current Law Students / Re: Honor code violation - totally screwed?
« on: August 10, 2011, 12:00:01 PM »
Sounds like you have not completed the disciplinary process yet - you will have a chance to plead your case.  First thing you need to do is fully educate yourself on the process and your rights.  Talk to your faculty advisor and get some guidance from him/her.  Do not start assuming things that will happen, a semester suspension seems extreme.  You may fail the assignment, and perhaps the class, then get put on double-secret probation or whatnot.  Don't start negotiating against yourself. 

There are 2 things you can do right now.  First, talk to the state Bar, explain the situation and ask them if this will preclude admission.  Second, there are law firms that specialize in dealing with bar admission/C&F problems, talk to one of them.  Perhaps run these by your advisor.


And with their lawsuit against bloggers and anonymous commenters they are learning about the "Striesand Effect."

Cooley is opening another campus in FL.  Are you serious?  I didn't know that.  It is already, by far, the largest law school in the US.  How many new law schools does that make for FL in the past 5 years, 5?  Too fast, way too fast.

And that cost won't change until (1) people stop flooding the schools with applications, and (2) loan money is not made so readily available.  Schools are responding to a (ill-conceived) demand, their seats are full and more schools are being opened.  Until the bubble bursts they will keep lowering the bar for admission.  Heck, Cooley is opening ANOTHER campus in FL.  At $1,200/credit hour that is like printing money.

The original sub issue was the crippling cost of law school.  I, in no way, contest its a sh.. ton of debt and makes life harsh for decades.  In an ironic way we are making the pro non accredited argument stronger.  Look at us ABA school fools arguing over and trying to manage our crippling debt.  I laugh with you, ha.

Law School Admissions / Re: Law or Healthcare Administration
« on: August 10, 2011, 08:45:12 AM »
Falcon tends to articulate sound advice pretty well.  I think you could push the ball forward on both fronts and consider many factors.  IMO, health care administration is going to provide better job opportunities.  You could prep for and take the LSAT.  If your GPA and LSAT are such that you would be looking at paying full tuition at a T3/4 school I would have serious reservations about going to law school.  Lots of employers have tuition reimbursement programs, so that could help pay for school and steer you into a particular law concentration in healthcare. 

No need to rush into law school - this does not need to be a one-or-the-other decision.  You can get a healthcare admin job, earn some money, see if you like it - at that time you will have some breathing room, prep for the LSAT and see where you come out.

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