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Current Law Students / Re: Best Audio study aids?
« on: July 15, 2010, 11:51:54 AM »
I dont know about returning them, civ pro is civ pro, the main gist you want to learn is what the rules mean, and I don't think the casebooks are all that different, so probably no need to return.  Often (if I remember right) the audios ID what casebook they are geared toward, but the biggest benefit is reinforcing the concepts irrespective of the cases, so I would not get too hung up on the casebook thing.

who cares about lasting impressions.  First and foremost get the best grades you can and form some meaningful relationships with appropriate faculty.  A bunch of clubs and activities will just detract from grades.

Current Law Students / Re: Is Law School the new "College?"
« on: July 14, 2010, 06:10:50 AM »
Law school absolutely should not be viewed as the next college or something to do for the next three years unless your goal is to ruin your financial future.  Law school is very expensive (upwards of $150,000 in some cases), a lot of hard work, and diminished opportunity to get a good paying job that will allow significant loans to be repaid.  T1, T2, T3, T4 does matter, so it is part of the equation.  Right now, even T1 grads are struggling to find the high-paying jobs out there, T3s and T4s even moreso.  I can think of much better ways to risk $150,000 unless you are absolutely committed to becoming a practicing attorney.

Current Law Students / Re: A typical law school class session?
« on: July 14, 2010, 06:01:51 AM »
Agree that there is a lot of time wasted slogging through the case where the information could be presented more efficiently.  There is some value to the process of going through the cases, but not for nearly every course.  Might be better if law schools designed a curriculum that used 25% "old-school" going through the cases and 75% traditional "teaching" about the law.

Current Law Students / Re: A typical law school class session?
« on: July 13, 2010, 06:12:16 AM »
Everyone's experience is different, but I respectfully disagree with the comment that 'very little black letter law is discussed.'  Perhaps compared to what is actually out there on the books, yes, but think about Crim Law and Crim Procedure - there is a lot of black letter law thrown at you.

Current Law Students / Re: Best Audio study aids?
« on: July 12, 2010, 07:34:06 AM »
Audio aids are great!  There are several good ones - find the audio that goes with your casebook or look for ratings/user comments on amazon.  Often the audios follow a casebook - that really helps you have an intelligent discussion in class and helps with material comprehension.  I would not lock on to any one particular "brand."  I used Gilbert, Sum and Substance, and Law School Legends and they were all good - get an early start and find them cheap used on Amazon or Ebay.  They are very helpful supplamenting the material that the profs cover.  I had some great Civ Pro disks that really cut through the fog of the FRCP and were downright entertaining b/c the audio professor did such a great job using memorable examples.  I still remember his example of pleading special damages referencing a case where a guy got hit by a car, suffered routine injury, and nerve damage that caused him to have a permanent erection - the "special damages."  You expect broken bones in an accident, not a permanent erection.  He said his wife would be pushing him in front of cars.  Cannot recall who they were through though.

Current Law Students / Re: A typical law school class session?
« on: July 12, 2010, 07:14:04 AM »
Reading is assigned and must be done BEFORE class.  Will discuss several cases on a particular area of law - most profs require student participation.  Typically students discuss the cases (issue, facts, procedure, law, analysis, conclusions) and respond to questions from profs, who will drill down and down with questions to make points.  Students often prepare their own case briefs - I recommend using good professional briefs supplamented with the actual reading.  This saves a lot of time.

Some profs are decent and casual in the questioning, some are beligerent a-holes who hammer away and leave you feeling stupid.  Those are a small minority, but they are out there.

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