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Thanks for the email. I am sure that I'll end up in biglaw at some point down the road. We don't all get to start out where we want to end up.
As far as rankings, here is a good link:
I attended BU and I can speak to my experience only. I had a good time and have posted about my epxerience in another thread. However, I would say that if I had been accepted to BC, I likely would have attended that school. Both schools do a great job in placing their students, but I have friends who did relatively badly at BC and were able to get interviews at the large firms in Boston while I did not. I was bitter during 2L, but not anymore. I think BU has risen to top tier status and will continue to provide a great education.
Anyone who wants to read about my experience, you can find it on another thread where I have been taking questions (for what seems like my entire law school experience)
Actually, BU graduating class of 02/03 was about 300 each, and class of 2004 was about 280-290. It was larger than it is now, but no where close to being twice the size. Barely 20% more, if that.
SOrry, I inadvertently dated myself. Our school cut its class size in half aound 2000. We had a class size of around 400 per year, similar to GW. We were ranked in the 30-40 range of US News. The former dean decided they could increase selectivity by cutting the class size down. It was a smart move. We moved up to the 20s for the first time, which was arouund when I was applying to law school. It is a pretty interesting story and I believe other schools have followed suit around the country.
Having read a number of comments from BU students with decent grades but rather negative assessment of biglaw prospects, here's my 2 cents as a recent grad. Even in a much worse market a few years ago, and when BU's ranking was not as high as it currently is, being in the top 3rd of your class in terms of 1L grades is well sufficient to get you interviews not only at the top firms in Boston (from experience, Wilmer, Ropes, Goodwin) and NYC (Paul Weiss, Weil, Skadden), but also in CA (Cooley, Brobeck, Latham, Orrick) and elsewhere (Perkin, Sonneschein). Now, getting offers from those interviews depend very much on your personality. Grades are necessary to get one foot through the door (i.e., the first interview). Whether you can actually get in depends on how well you do at the interviews. People who get interviews but cannot score offers tend to blame the school and market competition, when they really should reassess their interview skills.
This is true and I actually enjoyed my time at BU, but I have to point out that BU was twice the size it is now (and twice the size of Boston College) only five years ago. So of course there are more BU graduates at these firms, we used to graduate twice as many students.
The job market is great for law students right now. It was when I was a 2L as well, though we werent getting paid nearly as much as summer associates are bringing in today. Its amazing how much the big firms pay today. I'll be looking to lateral that way in a few years after getting experience at a smaller firm.
Just an FYI, no one in the corporate legal community really has any idea that there is a difference between the two schools, unless you are looking at corporate work in Georgia, which is fairly lacking to begin with. If you want corporate work, the major markets won't really care which school you graduated from.
For initial interviews, you want to have top grades to get top firms. Usually, the top firms in Boston will only interview the top 10-15% with the actual intent of calling them back. Law review is a must for Ropes/Wilmer/Goodwin while they will go deeper for the second tier firms in the city. It also depends on the curve of your year (each year is different) as far as what numerical GPA will get you what firms. I had around a 3.41 after 1L and struck out with the large Boston firms, but got a few interviews with some of the midsized firms in Boston and a few other cities. Essentially, it took me a while to figure out not to rely on career services or OCI if you're not in the top quarter of the class. Just start sending out letters to all the firms in whatever markets you are interested in and see what happens. This worked well for me.