Law School Discussion

Nine Years of Discussion
;

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - HardWorking

Pages: [1]
1
Where should I go next fall? / Re: Nova Law School- Any good??
« on: June 13, 2010, 04:10:57 PM »
If you plan moving out of state at about any law school the odds are not that good. Shockingly the majority of law schools are regional whether they are ranked 82nd or 172nd. Most people in New Hampshire will have no idea what Santa Clara University is and most people in San Jose will have never heard of Franklin Pierce.  Going to a tier 4 is not the same as Harvard, but if you graduate and pass the bar you can get and likely will get a job as an attorney somewhere. That is if  you actually look for a job. The reality is nobody will hand you anything coming from Nova or most schools it is up to you to make it happen.

You make a very good point.  I just want people to realize that unless you go to a school that has a name, you may have a hard time finding a job.  Even if you apply to South Carolina, which I think is ranked in the tier 4 or Michigan State, which is ranked in the tier 3, going to some place like Nova Law School will not help you in the long run.  You are better off going and getting a masters or phd from a good school than heading to a tier 4 law school.

2
I go to a T-25 and when we have visiting professors here they are terrible compared to the quality of education you get from the actual profs. The subject matter may be the same, but that doesn't mean you learn it as well. That's one difference.

Exactly true.  Many Tier 4 schools don't even want to hire other Tier 4 graduates.  You should listen to people on this site about Tier 3 and Tier 4 schools.  Sure, people are having a hard time finding a job with all types of degrees but, there is a big difference between a Doctor who has an M.D. from a lower-ranked medical school and a Lawyer who graduates from a lower-ranked law school.  Doctors have much more stringent admissions policies than Lawyers have when it comes to further education.  Law schools will take people with various degrees whereas medical schools expect you to have a certain amount of math and science courses before even applying.  Let's not pretend that a tier 4 law school is anything like a lower ranked medical school.  Many tier 4 law schools are just paper mills that are out to take your money.  As far as attrition rate, you can find out how many people actually failed out. Don't waste your money.  Go get a graduate degree or a something else.  Stay far away from Tier 4 schools.

Do you go to law school yet? From what you have written it seems that you have no idea what you are talking about. I know many tier 4 graduates and people from only California Bar Approved schools who are doing quite well for themselves. The reality is at the end of the day law school is mostly what YOU make of it not the name of your school.

Actually, it's mostly the name of your school, but what you make of it also counts for something sometimes.

You are right about that.  Yes, it matters what you make of law school but, at the end of the day you are lying to yourself if you think for one second that the name of your school doesn't matter.

3
Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tier 4 Law Schools
« on: June 13, 2010, 04:04:06 PM »
Did you fail out of a tier 4? It seems you have no idea about you are talking about. I go to a tier 4 and it has worked for me up to this point and the majority of people who actually put WORK in. There are people that sit around and bi**h about this that and the other who are not making and people who screw around on their labtops during class and never do the reading who failed out. Bottom line is it is up to YOU for the most part not your school to make it in the legal profession.

No, I didn't fail out of law school.  In fact, I turned down a few Tier 3 and Tier 4 law schools after talking to friends who have attended top tier law schools and can't find jobs.  I realized it was a waste of money if I wasn't going to attend a good school.  You say you attend a Tier 4 law school and it shows in your writing ability.  Notice your second sentence and how it makes no sense.  That just proves my point.  Maybe you should stop lying to yourself about your career prospects with your tier 4 degree.  A tier 4 law school is fine if you plan on staying in the same state as that school.  If not, you are just hurting yourself. 

4
I go to a T-25 and when we have visiting professors here they are terrible compared to the quality of education you get from the actual profs. The subject matter may be the same, but that doesn't mean you learn it as well. That's one difference.

Exactly true.  Many Tier 4 schools don't even want to hire other Tier 4 graduates.  You should listen to people on this site about Tier 3 and Tier 4 schools.  Sure, people are having a hard time finding a job with all types of degrees but, there is a big difference between a Doctor who has an M.D. from a lower-ranked medical school and a Lawyer who graduates from a lower-ranked law school.  Doctors have much more stringent admissions policies than Lawyers have when it comes to further education.  Law schools will take people with various degrees whereas medical schools expect you to have a certain amount of math and science courses before even applying.  Let's not pretend that a tier 4 law school is anything like a lower ranked medical school.  Many tier 4 law schools are just paper mills that are out to take your money.  As far as attrition rate, you can find out how many people actually failed out. Don't waste your money.  Go get a graduate degree or a something else.  Stay far away from Tier 4 schools.

5
Where should I go next fall? / Re: Nova Law School- Any good??
« on: June 13, 2010, 12:05:07 PM »
This is a horrible law school.  If you plan on moving out of Florida, then good luck having people recognize the name of your law school.  Let people lie to you, particularly people who attend this horrible school but, the truth is that as a Tier 4 graduate you will have a hell of a time trying to find a decent or good-paying job when you are competing with graduates of good schools.

6
Where should I go next fall? / Tier 4 Law Schools
« on: June 13, 2010, 12:02:55 PM »
If you enjoy wasting your money, then by all means attend a Tier 4 law school.  Some people make it, a minority.  Others find themselves, unless they are top of their class, having a hard time finding jobs or decent paying jobs.  Be smart and retake the LSAT.  If you can avoid any tier 4 law school, do it.  Do you really want to attend a great undergrad or graduate school, only to attend a no-name law school?  It makes you look as though there is a disconnect.  People will wonder how you attended such respected universities for undergrad or graduate and now you are at a no-name school.  People question your ability and intelligence and when you graduate with tons of law school debt, you have to go up against people who graduated from good law schools when it is time to job hunt.  Avoid tier 4 schools at all costs.

7
Nova Southeastern / AVOID THIS SCHOOL
« on: June 13, 2010, 11:59:07 AM »
Check out their attrition rates and you'll see this is not a very good school.  Avoid any Tier 4 if you can.

8
Capital / GO SOMEWHERE BETTER
« on: June 13, 2010, 11:50:50 AM »
This school is nothing but a papermill.  Look at their attrition rate and tell me you don't agree.  Capital rarely hires Professors from Tier 4 schools, except their own and that is only if that Professor was top of their class, has an extra degree, or attended a spectacular school for undergrad.  If you are looking at eventually working as a Law Professor, stay far away from this place.  I have a friend who graduated from a top 50 school and still can't find a job.  She had incredible grades with a prestigious law school name behind her yet, she can't find a job.  If you plan on living and working outside of Columbus, particularly outside of Ohio, go somewhere where people won't ask you "Where?" when you tell them you are looking at applying to or attending law school.  Let this be your absolute last choice.

Pages: [1]