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(there was a post above this one from expes saying that a JD wasn't a doctorate and we weren't doctoral candidates)

If you are in LS, your resume should say something like:
Candidate for Juris Doctor  2012

It is still a doctorate degree, but you will be Esquire not Doctor. From what I have learned, though this may be incorrect, JDs aren't called Dr. like other degrees ending in "d" like MD, PhD, etc. because it would effect the way jurors view the info attorneys present in court.

My answer is based on the OP's question. The OP asked for the opinion of the regular college educated person who has not attended LS, not the opinion of people in general.

I think most college educated people don't view online programs (such as Kaplan) as being at the same level as a regular in-class degree program (exception: if it is through a respected university and is considered the same as that university's in-class degree). I would think this view would carry over to their opinion of law schools.

Transferring / Re: T4 to T1
« on: July 21, 2010, 08:59:00 PM »
Good luck at FSU! It's a great school.   :)

"I have something in common with both our current president and a previous commander in chief. I was born in Hawaii and I was raised in Arkansas. Hawaii is somewhat of a melting pot, therefore exposing me to many cultures at an early age. This exposure stimulated my spirit of adventure as well as my interest and motivation to travel."

I'm guessing you've applied and are probably set to attend LS already, but if you're applying for the next round, I would redo this first paragraph. Your 2nd & 3rd sentences don't really match well. The second sentence makes it sound like you were born in Hawaii but raised in Arkansas, so would have been influenced by culture in Arkansas rather than HI. The 3rd sentence makes it sound like you were old enough to have had some cultural influence from HI. Anyway, I think I'd restructure the paragraph. Best of luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Never Take the LSAT Sick
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:43:41 PM »
That's what the lady told me--that I'd have to cancel if I used it. She let me have the trash can in case I couldn't make it to the bathroom. I assume she thought my using it would gross out and distract the other students, maybe even make some other kids start puking or something.

expes, you wouldn't happen to be Cooley/Thelo/Numitor would you? He recently disappeared and he had some very distinctive ways of writing that you also seem to have: realise instead of realize, mabey instead of maybe, lots of missing possessive marks, lots of dots between sentences, etc. You also seemed very upset about the Cooley article and the posted responses (and I believe he went to Cooley). If you're not the same person, I'm sorry for the confusion. If you are, then did you close that account or get kicked off by a moderator?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Never Take the LSAT Sick
« on: July 20, 2010, 08:05:11 PM »
I also took the LSAT sick. I went to bed at a good time, planning to get my 7 hours.  I woke up about 2 am sick to my stomach and unable to fall asleep. I drank lots of pepto and ate some crackers, and my stomach finally started calming down. I was so afraid that I would get sick during the test and have to cancel out. The proctor was very nice and allowed me to have a trash can by me as I took it, but told me that I'd have to cancel if I did actually use it. Anyway, I made it through the exam, but my score was 8 points lower than my practice tests. Luckily, it was still high enough that I got into some law schools.

Hopefully getting sick on LSAT test day means we have used up our Murphey's Law card and will be the picture of health when we take the bar. :)

I agree that people unfairly dump all over Cooley. Their graduates learned the same law as all other law students. I also know from experience that the survivors of the 1L year at T-4 schools with these really harsh curves are highly motivated and intelligent people.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have liked people dumping on FCSL when I first started there. I can tell you that I know a lot of people there who aren't very happy with the program, and many of them are stuck and cannot transfer out. On the other hand, I also know people at FCSL who seem to love it there.

Good luck on your evidence final!

I thought the point of this site was discussion, and this specific thread was for discussing what we thought about the article. My opinions on this thread were based on the article. I'm not exactly sure what you think I said that was so critical of Cooley. We all agree that the Cooley rankings aren't to be taken seriously, so beyond that how have I said anything that bad about Cooley? You're right about all schools raising tuition. Tuition increases are a common occurrence. I also agree that students can transfer out if they don't like Cooley, but only as long as they have achieved high enough grades to transfer (so almost all students will be unable to transfer out).

Bigs, I'm surprised to see you getting this heated about this thread. You're normally so upbeat in your posts. I have noticed that some of your more recent posts seem to point to you becoming more and more frustrated with people talking about T-4 schools, the job market, and the rankings. We need the positive Bigs back.

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