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Wow! This thread is only 2 years old?! It has a bagillion posts and views. Most of the threads seem to be pretty dead, but this one appears to have taken on a life of its own.

Law School Admissions / Re: Does volunteer work matter a lot?
« on: July 22, 2010, 11:28:18 PM »
I don't think it would hurt you or that they would see you as heartless. Based on what you wrote, it sounds like they'd think you were busy interning and researching. T-14 schools are a little different from a lot of the other schools, so maybe Morten Lund or Bike Pilot will chime in since they went to top schools.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: E-mails from law schools
« on: July 22, 2010, 11:24:52 PM »
If you can bring up your score 10-15 points, you should be able to get into quite a few T-4s. The minority status will help you some too. If you can't bring it up very much, you should consider applying to NCCU. NCCU specifically says that it is geared toward minority students and they tend to look past lower LSAT scores. They also happen to have really inexpensive tuition and offer both part-time & full-time options. Good luck on the LSAT!  :)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: E-mails from law schools
« on: July 22, 2010, 09:47:18 PM »
Did you check the thing on LSAC saying you wanted schools to be able to see your info and contact you? I didn't allow it, so I never got any of that stuff. I know others who did get some e-mail from schools by allowing their info to be visible on LSAC. FCSL, for example, recruits people that way. They send them an e-mail telling them they are pre-accepted or something like that, and telling them that they just need to send in an application. However, I have also heard about schools that offer fee waivers and contact students to get them to apply to increase the number of students applying, so that they can reject a higher number of applicants and appear more competitive. Would you happen to be an extremely unusual minority? Or is there something extraordinary about you that W&M would know about? If not, I'm not sure why they are contacting you because they are aT30 LS and their 25%-75% LSAT is 161-166 and GPA is 3.42-3.77 ( Honestly, I'm not sure what ABA LS you will be able to get into with your LSAT & GPA. Your LSAT score is more of a problem than your GPA. Have you considered retaking the LSAT?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Campbell Law vs. Central Law
« on: July 22, 2010, 01:31:38 PM »
There are good things about both programs. NCCU is a T-4, but it is really, really inexpensive. (I considered going there myself because of how cheap it is, but chose to go somewhere else instead.) Campbell, while T-4, is more respected than other T-4 schools in the state. It really depends on what you want to do when you graduate (such as if there is a specialty you want to focus on and 1 of those schools has a certificate in it) and how much debt you are willing to go into to be a JD. If you know some NC lawyers, maybe you could talk to them about how much of a difference going to Campbell will make and whether it is worth the extra expense.

Law School Admissions / Re: A few questions
« on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:03 AM »
What are the factors that most determine if you receive scholarship money?  LSAT & GPA

Does your location, income, history affect it at all? no, unless you're a movie star or something--then it's possible it determine whether they offer one

Maybe I should clarify...I am thinking about just applying to Washburn U. for their Spring Start semester.  I am wondering if I apply there and don't get the scholarship I need/want and withdraw the application, retake the LSAT and re-apply for the next fall cycle, will the original appliacation have any affect on the new application (In terms of acceptance and scholarship)?

They'll still have your old application on file when you reapply, and they will ask you if you have applied before. It would likely effect whether they accept you a second time, but I don't know from 1st hand experience. You could call the admissions office and find out.

What exactly makes an applicant 'under-represented'?  Is it only race, or can it have to do with sex, veteran status, having a child, etc.?
pretty much race, though there may be some exceptions

Good luck!

(there was a post above this one from expes saying that a JD wasn't a doctorate and we weren't doctoral candidates)

If you are in LS, your resume should say something like:
Candidate for Juris Doctor  2012

It is still a doctorate degree, but you will be Esquire not Doctor. From what I have learned, though this may be incorrect, JDs aren't called Dr. like other degrees ending in "d" like MD, PhD, etc. because it would effect the way jurors view the info attorneys present in court.

My answer is based on the OP's question. The OP asked for the opinion of the regular college educated person who has not attended LS, not the opinion of people in general.

I think most college educated people don't view online programs (such as Kaplan) as being at the same level as a regular in-class degree program (exception: if it is through a respected university and is considered the same as that university's in-class degree). I would think this view would carry over to their opinion of law schools.

Transferring / Re: T4 to T1
« on: July 21, 2010, 09:59:00 PM »
Good luck at FSU! It's a great school.   :)

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