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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tier 4 Law Schools
« on: June 17, 2010, 06:10:17 PM »
SASS,  thank you for answering my questions. Your input has been very helpful. I have felt a bit torn by what I've heard from friends, profs, message boards, etc. Some people have suggested staying if you are on law review, saying that it matters more than the T, and then others have suggested that going to a T-1 is still better. Some of my profs have tried to persuade me to stay and others have said that it would be a better opportunity to leave.  (I'm sure some of the profs feel like they have to try to convince students to stay since the Dean sends around an e-mail to them about students who are planning to transfer. We also have to meet with the Dean about our reasons for wanting to transfer before they will release our transcripts.) I would like to be at a school where finding a job isn't as much of an uphill battle. I'm also afraid that if I stay that I will be confined to this 1 city. I also have to think about the fact that I am married (and have a husband willing to move right now for this), so I have to try to open as many doors  as possible, and I think moving up a couple tiers would help. Ideally, I'd like my husband to be able to go back to school for his PhD when I'm done or be able to start while I'm in school (depends on where we transfer), and I think a higher tiered school would give me a greater ability to find a job wherever he goes to school.

(Part of the above is also to address some of what Bigs has been saying. The interest in moving up to T-1 isn't necessarily about big law. The motivation can also be a desire to be able to be more mobile in an economy that is really bad.)

Transferring / how long do transfer decisions take?
« on: June 17, 2010, 04:18:28 PM »
Does anyone know how long it normally takes to find out if the transfer application has been accepted or rejected for schools with rolling admissions?

Advocate, I just wanted to say that your post is both hilarious and insightful. Excellent way to illustrate your point.  :)

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tier 4 Law Schools
« on: June 16, 2010, 06:06:42 PM »
SASS, thank you for answering my questions. I was hoping you could answer a couple more. It's nice to hear from someone who has transferred from a T-4.

1. I've heard that people sometimes have trouble adjusting when they transfer law schools because most people have established study groups and because there may be some stigma about being a transfer student. Did you experience any of that sort of thing when you transferred?

2. Did you have any issues with participating in OCI at the new school? I've heard it can be hard for transfer students to get interviews their 1st year at the new school.

3. Giving up law review. Did you find it hard to give up law review or do you find that it doesn't really matter because you transferred up so high? The schools I'm looking at are between #25-55, so do you think losing law review would matter?

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tier 4 Law Schools
« on: June 15, 2010, 11:32:35 PM »
I'm hoping to transfer from a T-4 to a T-1 (though the ones I've applied to are not quite as high up as T-20). What differences did you notice? What was better?

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Which School Should I Go to?
« on: June 15, 2010, 11:23:03 PM »
Pace is one of the best for environmental law, but other than that part of the program, I don't know anything about it.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: spouse and kids
« on: June 14, 2010, 11:16:04 PM »
I thought it was harder to juggle family (husband, no kids) and law school the second semester. Some of it seemed to be that our reading load doubled and that my husband and I knew what we were in for the 2nd semester--me being busy with LS practically all of the time.

General Board / Re: What should I be doing to prepare for law school?
« on: June 14, 2010, 09:54:48 PM »
Yes, CALI is awesome (except for studying Civ Pro).

I was thinking about another thing you can do to prepare for LS. You could watch Law School Musical on youtube (just a couple minutes long).

It won't mean that much to you until you've finished your 1st semester, and a lot of people say 1st year. It is kind of a downer's look at LS, but it is more and more hilarious the more you can relate to it. There are days in LS that everyone feels like the guy in the video.

(There are a lot of other funny LS videos on youtube you can look at when you need a study break--Boalt Torts shuffle, Barbri Girl, etc.)

General Board / Re: What should I be doing to prepare for law school?
« on: June 14, 2010, 05:43:47 PM »
Yes, it would have been so much better and less stressful if I had known what to do to do well when I walked into law school. Law School Confidential was the book that the school had recommended and it had good reviews, so I bought it and read it. Part of the problem with it for me was the conflicting advice--the book would say to do one thing and the school would say to do the opposite. I ended up doing what the school said over what the book said. Another thing that I did was to try to incorporate a number of different ways of studying, hoping that 1 of them would stick and help me on the finals. I briefed everything, typed up notes from the books (typing/writing helps me remember), took lots of notes in class, made my own note cards for all of my classes, made my own outlines, did Cali exercises, consulted the supplements like E&E for outlines or whenever I was confused, did lots of practice essays, used the Law in a Flash cards, used Q&A, etc. (I also had to be make sure that I wasn't teaching myself something that went the opposite way of what a prof said--ex: 1 prof said transferred intent only applied to assault and battery, but all of my other resources said that wasn't true.) Anyway, I'm sure that was overkill, but I continued most of these study practices the 2nd semester. This method of combining many different ways of learning the material and testing my knowledge of the material has worked very well for me. By working so hard, law school did click for me.  I do agree that it didn't seem to click for some people in the class, but it generally didn't seem like those people tried very hard.  On the other hand, there were some people in the class who worked very hard, and for whatever reason, it was not reflected in their grades. (So I guess it didn't click that well for them either.)

Nova Southeastern / Re: AVOID THIS SCHOOL
« on: June 14, 2010, 05:13:31 PM »
HardWorking, I'm not trying to be mean/rude when I say this, but why are you here? You keep posting the same thing over and over again, and you are not a law student or a lawyer, so it's not based on your own experience.  Maybe there are other things we could all discuss. Or are you are attempting to frustrate others so that they will argue with you?

I'll start: HardWorking, what area of the law were you interested in pursuing?

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