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Law School Applications / When should i apply for fall 2012?
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:10:36 PM »
The main obstacle here is my upward sloping UGPA.  right now it is a 3.19 and it will probably be a 3.30 after the spring assuming i get another 3.9+ GPA this semester (i got all A's on the first wave of tests.)  However, if i wait until after fall 2011 semester to end, near new years 2012, and get another 3.9 GPA my UGPA will go up to 3.38 (this is likely)
I am registered for June LSAT and will be ready by then (already scoring near 160 on preptests) but i could take it again in October.
So when should i apply?  Is a .05-.08 increase in UGPA worth waiting until late December?
Im a junior and an accounting major if that is relevant

Hey i am in the same exact situation as you.  I have heard that GPA trends do come into affect, but only after GPA/LSAT scores are considered.  They are to distinguish students of similar scores.  So, if i am not mistaken, you will be chosen above a student with the same lsat score and a 3.4 gpa that has been steady throughout college.  But, i dont think your trend will help you compete much with someone who has lets say a 3.5GPA.  However, i am not 100% on this, if some one more experienced can chime in that would be awesome.
I am also a junior with a 3.19UGPA and an accounting major.  I had a 2.0 gpa freshman year and since then have had a 3.9 gpa every semester and i took a winter and summer semester hah.  Hopefully i will get another 3.9 this semester and have a 3.30 for my app.  My advice is to focus on the lsat of course.

Backround (JUNE PREP)
I had a diagnostic of 150 3 months ago and since then i have read all 3 logic bibles.  In the bibles i noticed a huge increase in my performance.  While taking timed 7 question passages in the books i would usually get 5-7 right throughout all 3 books while staying under 8:45 for my time.  Even when the books threw 2-4 passages in a row i would complete them in time with this kind of success ration (5.5/7). 
At the end of the logic games bible i scored 22/24 on the sample section and finished with a minute to go.  I then took a real LG section from an exam and scored a 22/25.  I was excited and while approaching my first prep test since my diagnostic i anticipated a score around 164.  But, i got a 158.  I have taken 3 exams including that first 158 in 6 days and have scored 157-158 every time.  I usually get between 15-20 on all sections, and have yet to break 18 on a LG section.  I think the added time transfering answer selection to the scantron might be adding some pressure, even though i use the logical grouping approach.  I was only able to finish 3/4 games on the last exam and scored a 15 for the section.  On the 3 other sections i scored 7/18 combined for the last 6 questions of each passage and i wasn't guessing.  I feel much more rushed on the full exam and comonly exhausted at one point or another.  This is dissapointing since with a UGPA of 3.30 i need an LSAT of 160+ to get into a respectable law school.
My question is, how should i go foward in studying for the June LSAT?  Should i keep on taking practice tests to fine tune my skills, or should i return to the bibles?  Has anyone else had trouble making this transition and overcome it, or is it typical to perform much better in the bibles then on the much longer exam?

So i am taking a caribbean history class and we just got our midterm back which counts as half of our grade and i got a 31/50 for a C.  In order to make an a- you need an 85 so im basically guaranteed to be in the B range even if i really turn things around.  However, i cant even really afford a B because my undergrad gpa is a 3.32 and my lsac gpa is a 3.03 (2 f's fall freshamn year).  In addition, im really busy all the time with junior level accounting work so devoting alot of time to this class for little reward, or little punishment, seems illogical.  I have 13 other credits this semester which i have grades of all A's in throug midterms, i just didnt take this class seriously enough and was suprised.  I dont want to kill a 3.9+ semester gpa unless i have to, especially since it is my first year out of community college at a respectable business school (suny albany).
But, ive been doing a little bit of reading and found that the lsac may or may not count this W as an F on my transcript.  They say that if it is "non-punitive at my school then it will not hurt me.  I guess this means that if it doent hurt my undergrad gpa then it wont hurt my lsac gpa?  This is kind of wierd to me since the 2 differ on acedmic forgiveness for f's in undergrad school:/  Does this just reffer to weather or not i dropped the class in time for a W, for example if i drop it after monday then it goes down as a f at my school i think (ive never dropped a class ever).  Or do they really just adopt the undergrad schools policies even thoguh everyone is coming from different schools with probably different policies?
Sorry if i rambled and thanks for reading
-john levine

Studying for the LSAT / Re: MY lsat prep log
« on: June 22, 2010, 06:58:19 PM »
I have decided to stay the course and stick with accounting or finance.  My late acceptance to the  Susiness School at The University at Albany played a big role in this (sorry Geneso :-[)
I will take another prep test on thursday and post my results.  I can hardlly wait  ;)
Now on page 220 of LR

Law School Applications / Re: Chances?
« on: June 19, 2010, 11:34:33 AM »
Your lsat score is just as impotrant as your gpa.  So much so that a poor lsat score might ruin your chances of getting into lawschool despite your gpa.  Obviously you cant have a higher gpa than 4.00, so i would say your chances aren't bad.  Just do well on your lsat.  You should aim to get in the 160's or higher if your looking at tier 1 schools

ok, i just realized they collect all transcrts and recalculate gpa's.  This sucks for me becausei  have failed 2 classes, which have been retaken and forgiven.  I hear that; these classes will now count?  Also, i heard that A+ grades will recieve a 4.33 gpa.  I have many A+ grades, but my school oy gies out A's So if you have an 100 you get an A.  How would law school find out that this is an A+?  Is the site i just found wrong?  Cause i have a lot of grades near or at around 100% which just go down as A's.  Also, many classes curve giving out higher marks than the percentage might give otherwie...
So how does law school handle these grades

I am transferring schools between my sophmore and junior year,  How will this affect my GPA for when i apply to law school?  Will they only use my gpa from the second school?  Or will they average them?  The first school is a community college, where i earned a degree.  The second school is the University at Albany.  Also, they have said thas they estimate that only 53 of of 64 credits will transfer (I dont know why).  But, does that mean that these classes wont cout toward my gpa(assuming any do).
How will law school calculate my gpa?
Thank you
-John Levine

I am also a junior at SUNY Geneseo, and i have just started preparing for the lsat.  I dont think it is ever to early to begin studying, afterall, you can always drop it and come back to it a couple months before the test.  I agree, that if you spend the money to take a prep class you should test right after, while its fresh.  Most schools will only count the highest score so there is no harm in taking amny tests.
Personally, i am preparing by reading all 3 of the powerscore bibles.  These three books cost just $150 in all and i have heard that they are the gold standard in lsat prep.  They are the only guys out there that use actual lsat question in their study books.  You can buy "The Powerscore LSAT Bible Trilogy" new here
Also, you should invest in many practice lsat exams.  i would buy the 3 books; "10 actual official lsat preptests", " 10 more, actual official lsat preptests", and "the next 10 actual official lsat preptests".  Each book consists of 10real lsat exams and the books will cost just $20 each here  They are from the 90's but still a good investment.  The newer tests should be held off until you are within months of the test.  These will cost you $8 a test or so  :o but obviously still worth the money.
 I started my lsat prep by taking a practice lsat with no preperation.  I scored a 150 cold:/.  After just 2 weeks of studying, and 130 pages into the first book, I have already seen improvements in my score.  Last saturday i scored a 156 ;D and i got 22/24 of the question in the logic reasoning section (the section my current book covers).  Obviously, i am happy with the powerscore bibles!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: MY lsat prep log
« on: June 14, 2010, 09:37:35 PM »
Thanks for the reply,
Really, i haven't had trouble with accounting so far.  As a sophmore at a community college i took intermediate accounting (a 300 class) and got an A-.  I took calculus 1 and got a C, i was disappointed with this.  But that was during the same semester as int. accounting, and that semester totalled 19 credit hours!  I had all A's minus the C in calc, i guess i put calc off and was already drained by the time i got to it.  Anywayyy i do well in accounting, one of the best at the community college, where 50% of the students fail any given accounting class, i get A's.  However, common consensus tells me that accounting is a hard major, harder than business administration.  And, i dont want to pointlessly tax myself.  I guess this is something i will be pondering for the next 8 days and talk about with a counselor at the new school (SUNY Geneseo  8) ).  Of course i highly value your opinion and thank you for the tips, you have me leaning back towards sticking with accounting  :D .   

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