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We get graded based on our mid-term and/or solely on final exams.

To me, it makes sense to prepare for the writing portion. Knowing the black letter law is not enough. We need to know how to write a darn good analysis essay that is structured well to get a good grade.

I try to stay ahead of what is taught in the classes. I took LEEWS over the summer, but then took Fleming's Exam Writing Workshop in addition to LEEWS. After I had taken LEEWS, I understood what it would take to write a good essay, but I could not write one. After taking Fleming's, I started to feel like I can write a good essay now.

I am done with casebriefs for my cases up until the final week. I used the "Casenote Legal Briefs" to do the casebriefs. I have a good overview of what we are going to learn up to finals. I have used the Fleming's Outlines (they come with CDs) to learn the substantive law and have adjusted that outline to fit what we are covering in class. (The CD lectures go over the content of the classes, but also focus on what prof's love to test.)

Having finished this, I am focusing on writing final exam essays. Right now, I am doing open notes/open book exams where I am not timing myself. As we get closer to finals, I am going to get more strict with my timing.

I am only a 1L, part-time student, full-time career person...so I cannot tell you that my strategy is working. But, if you can write a great final exam essay and you can do well on the multiple choice questions (if you get those), then why not focus on being able to do this.

We had mid-term exams and the contracts professor rushed through material at the end (keep in mind that we did not have any additional study time and legal writing memos were due one day prior to mid-terms which were held on the weekend). She covered material at lightening speed on Wednesday, probably 2 weeks worth of material. Guess what was on the mid-term on Saturday? The material that had just been covered three days prior. I was so glad that I had prepared in advance using the method described above. We won't get our grades back for another week or two, but I was able to cover all the issues in a well organized essay.

Vera :)

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Lexis Questions & Answers
« on: October 15, 2006, 01:10:44 AM »
I have the Q&A books for Torts and Contracts. They are good (in my opinion) because they explain the answers to the multiple choice questions in detail. I bought mine used from either amazon or half.ebay.com

Vera :)

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General Board / Re: what does it take
« on: October 07, 2006, 09:44:57 PM »
Since the grades are based solely on your exam writing performance, focus on getting good at exam writing. I am a 1L also, so I cannot tell you that this strategy is successful, but it makes sense.

I took an exam writing class that was very useful. I practice write exams. It was very helpful for the mid-terms that I just took (one more tomorrow)...do not have grades yet, but I felt good about the exams. There is a lot in those exam hypos, you need to get good at organizing the issues in addition to spotting them. You need to learn how to organize your writing, not just memorize the law. (Though you need that too.)

My strategy is to practice...practice...practic e...I will see what happens when grades are given for our mid-terms.

Vera :)

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General Board / Re: Study Groups 1L
« on: October 07, 2006, 09:41:32 PM »
Study groups can be a waste of time. I tried to meet with one group, but I was worried about the different levels of prep. I do pretty well studying on my own. I have one steady study partner, she and I write practice exams together and go over the answers. We will also compare outlines. She works just as hard as I do, so I find it useful to hear her thinking as we are discussing answers to exam hypos.

We just had mid-terms (one more tomorrow morning)...then we will have finals in mid-December. She and I are going to take one practice exam together every week. What we do is to write on the issue of law that we just covered. (There are items on the finals that we have not learned yet, so we leave that and come back to it later.)

To me this is useful prep.

Talk to some people that you like in your classes and see what they are doing. Is your law school very competetive?

Vera :)

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Concord Law School
« on: October 07, 2006, 09:36:06 PM »
I almost decided on Concord. I work full-time and have to because I am a single mom. I ended up not starting with Concord because they lack the ABA approval. The only reason that Concord does not have ABA approval is not because they are a terrible school, but because the ABA will not approve online law schools. Maybe that will change in a few year, but personally, I doubt that requirement will change.

I am in law school now, as a part-time student at an ABA approved school. I still catch slack because it is not some T14 school...but there are people who have family, careers, etc. who have no other choice but to attend an online school or a local T3 or T4 school on a part-time basis. If I did not have my family responsibilities, I would attend full-time and may have moved out of the local area.

I know somebody who graduated from Concord, passed the bar exam (first try for him also)...I think it is what you make out of it. Also, if you are older and already have a career and are wanting to enhance your career options, an online JD degree may be for you...if you are 22, fresh out of undergrad, the online is probably not an option.

Vera :)

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Restatement 2nd- Contracts
« on: October 07, 2006, 08:08:04 PM »
I have the Restatement 2nd for Contracts. The books are called "pamphlets" but are actually books. I only use the first one for Contracts I. I like these because they have serious explanations with each section with the relevant cases. It is great to review and to understand. The publisher is American Law Institute Publishers. I bought mine used.

Vera :)

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Option Contract
« on: October 07, 2006, 08:03:47 PM »
When there is an offer made, for example that I am offering you my house for rent over the vacation and I tell you that I will leave my offer open until the end of the month. Even though I said that to you, I can rescind the offer at any time prior. However, you can give me something to keep the offer open. So, if we negotiate and you tell me that you are paying me $100 to ensure to keep the offer open until the end of the month, I agree and you pay me...then we have created an option contract.

There has to be new consideration for the option contract. The consideration was you paying me the money and in return I am keeping the offer open until the end of the month. It was bargained for exchange and there was a legal value to the exchange.

Vera :)

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Leews at top 10 school
« on: October 07, 2006, 08:00:38 PM »
I posted on the other thread too. I took LEEWS and Fleming's Exam Writing Workshop. I did LEEWS as a CD set and then took Fleming's live (though you can take it as a CD workshop too). Fleming's spends 4 hours going over the similar techniques as LEEWS, but then there are 8 hours of practice writing of exams that are real exams. To me that was hugely helpful. I know that there is writing in LEEWS too, but the hypos are mixed in terms of topics (i.e. contract law with torts). The Fleming's ones are more "real". Also, they debrief the exams in terms of how to do the outline right, how to write the exam right...debriefing what important issues there were...etc.

It really helped me write. My law school has mid-terms, they only count toward 10% of the grade, but still. If it had not been for me taking the class, I would have been in a heap of trouble. It is also helping me for my legal writing class. (I am not at a top tier school.)

Vera :)

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: LEEWS: Do I need the audio?
« on: October 07, 2006, 07:54:40 PM »
I did LEEWS as a CD program and I took Fleming's as a live 12 hour class. LEEWS is good because it explains, but Fleming's actually gets you to write the exams and gives you additional exams by class (torts, contracts, property, civil procedure, criminal law, etc.). I liked it a lot and found it helpful. I am only a 1L, but at my law school we have mid-term exams (though they only count 10% of our final grade). I took Fleming's and really appreciated the exam writing practice. I would have been "up the creek without a paddle" had I not taken Fleming's Exam Writing Workshop.

Hope this feedback is helpful... Vera :)

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General Board / Re: To law students 29+
« on: August 15, 2006, 02:32:00 PM »
Hey Jarhead --- Once a Marine, Always a Marine.

There isn't anything that can out-do the basic training that you received in the Marines. If you could make it through that, you can make it through anything... URAAAH!

Vera :)

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