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Current Law Students / Re: Con Law and Property at a TTT
« on: January 15, 2005, 09:23:14 PM »
I used Emmanuels for Property and the West Sum & Substance Quick Review for Constitutional Law. I also refer to the Lexis "Understanding" series for any class where I need more explanation for a concept.

Current Law Students / Re: How much $$ for books each semester?
« on: January 10, 2005, 08:56:27 AM »
I've had some semesters that are higher, but normally around $400-500 without supplements. I normally try to look for books that have no markings in them so I end up getting a mixture of new and used books.

You could call the bookstore that usually services your school and ask them about an average price for 1st semester 1L books (get different quotes for all new and all used). The prices may change from semester to semester because the books used change, but they can give you an idea of a general total for the current semester.

You may want to also get a list of books being used for the current semester and then check on-line for retailers that sell law books. That will give you some idea of an average price.

Current Law Students / Re: *** CONTRACTS WAS TODAY ***
« on: December 19, 2004, 03:11:26 PM »

I agree. Following the format probably makes it easier to read (since they like to drill the format into everyone's head and profs are used to reading it that way), but I think that as long as you hit all of the major areas, you've pretty much covered what is needed. However, I have had several profs that don't care one way or the other whether you actually use the format. Many of them are just interested in making sure you understand the material and can apply it. I think it is safer to stick to IRAC (no reason to piss off a prof if you don't need to), but you mainly just need to make sure you have addressed everything that you need to. I'm so used to it by now that it just feels easier to do it that way.

Current Law Students / Re: Please help me find this case
« on: December 17, 2004, 08:53:33 PM »
You are right, it was Civil Procedure. I haven't had much sleep this week.  :o

Current Law Students / Re: Please help me find this case
« on: December 17, 2004, 06:14:43 PM »
You're welcome. They drilled it into our head in Property. Good luck on your assignment.  :)

Current Law Students / Re: Please help me find this case
« on: December 17, 2004, 05:19:40 PM »
Pennoyer v. Neff, 95 US 714 (1877)

Current Law Students / Re: Should I buy new or used books???
« on: December 17, 2004, 03:18:32 PM »
Opinions will differ, but I buy used books that don't have any markings in them and if I can't find those, then I buy new. I agree with the above poster, I like the idea of being able to read and analyze the material without someone else's thought process interfering with what I am trying to do.

Current Law Students / Re: Does this annoy anyone else?
« on: December 17, 2004, 01:23:06 PM »
My pet peeve isn't anyone else (my family and friends are pretty understanding). My pet peeve is MYSELF. I am completely unable to calm down for several days after my finals are over. My last exam ended at noon today and I felt really good about them overall, but ever since I finished, I can't stop doing things. I got out of the exam, went to the bookstore, sold my books and got the books for next semester. I came home and started cleaning out my office and cleaning the house. For the next several days (as history will repeat itself as usual), I will basically have the uncontrollable urge to keep doing SOMETHING. It is like I have all this energy and I don't feel like I can rest. I feel like I have to keep doing something since I have been in exam mode for two weeks. It drives me crazy. Last semester, it took me two to three days to even go to sleep. I don't know what it is, it never happened until law school.

Current Law Students / Re: Bar Exam Structure.....
« on: December 07, 2004, 06:16:39 PM »
Go to, choose your state (Georgia) and on that page (right hand side) scroll down and it will give a place to click for Bar Exam Format. That will give you the information you are looking for.

Basically, it is multiple choice, essay, and a performance test.

Current Law Students / Re: Do u get called on once or more than once???
« on: December 06, 2004, 07:59:04 PM »
Lawgirl, since reading this board I have seen all the great advice you have given.  I know everyone studies differently and different things work better for different people, but I am curious as to your approach to finals.  How many days do you devote to memorizing and how much to practicing exam answers?  Do you have any advice about how to best approach/prepare for writing good exams answers and yet be able to finish within the time alloted?  I felt really good about the first half of my answer on an exam today but not so confident on the last portion because of the time crunch. 

As far as memorizing, it usually takes me about three days per class. I have a final this Wednesday and I started studying my outline on Sunday. This technique is just for one subject at a time. On the first day, I carefully go through each section of the outline for one subject. I separate it out into main topics, focus on one topic for understanding and then focus on it again to see if I can start reciting that one topic from memory (ex: Criminal Procedure, pre-trial release). I do this several times until I feel like I have a good grasp on the material, can see where the subtopics break up, and have a fairly good recall of my outline. It also helps to make notes out to the side to pare down the main idea from a paragraph to a few sentences or a few poionts.

Then I move onto the next topic and do the same thing for all topics. I only try to memorize one topic at a time until I get through the entire outline. On that day, I don't try to recite the whole thing from memory yet, just each individual section

The second day, I go back through and practice memorizing the topics again separately, but toward the end of the day, I try to recite the entire outline from memory. I do this by thinking about it, writing it down, typing it, charting it, etc. (whatever helps you). The third day I just work on reciting the whole thing from memory, again thinking about it/typing/charting, etc.

I haven't tried it yet, but I did hear about a technique for memorizing. It involves memorizing the rooms in your house and attaching a memory to rooms and physical objects in the house. Ex: memorize all of the things in the living room. Use that room for one subject (Criminal Procedure), attach the memory of the sections of your outline to specific physical things in the living room. Ex: an entertainment center might hold all of your memories for 6th Amendment trial rights, and all of the stuff you have in/on the entertainment center might make up the parts of that specific section. I may try it for another final I have later. It is supposed to let you visually walk through the room and recall things easier. I don't know. I'll let you know how it works out.

As for practice exams. I hate to say it, but I do them if I have time, usually the last day. I should spend more time on them and I would say it is a good idea, I just don't always have time.

As far as timing on your exams. At the beginning of the exam, write down your start and end times. Then look at how many sections you have and the points alloted for each and divide up your time according to how the sections are weighted. Write those times down and STICK TO THEM. No matter what, get out of a section when you need to. You will have a better chance of having time left that way rather than just winging it. I have done that from my very first exam and I have never run out of time. I would always like to have more time, but I always finish.

Hopefully, that will help you.
If you need anything else, let me know.

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