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Transferring / Re: anyone ever transferred out of cooley?
« on: July 29, 2004, 01:42:41 PM »

Check your LSD email. I replied.

General Board / Re: First Day Assignments, Compare Notes
« on: July 29, 2004, 12:39:59 PM »
I actually still have my first assignments from when I started 4 semesters ago. This will help give you an idea of the amount of page numbers we were given

Contracts: 32 pages for the intro and then 1-10 and 20-34

Property: 3-41, 59-68, 77-79

Torts: 1-34

Criminal Law: 1-47

Intro to Law: One case to brief

General Board / Re: anyone working during full time program
« on: July 15, 2004, 12:16:36 AM »
The attorneys are right. It is not worth it to sacrifice your grades by working if you don't have to. I decided not to work during law school (at least most of it until I get an externship). To me, the grades are much more important then a little extra money. I went from having a nice paycheck to nothing, but I figured out how to live on the budget and I make it work. I am not, however, implying that my situation is like everyone else's situation. There may be people who have to work and do not have a choice. The only thing I would suggest in that situation is to only work the minimum hours that you need to get by. Now is not the time to divide up your time if you don't need to.

I know that they are very wary of a bankruptcy, but it is impossible to tell you what your local bar would do. Give your local bar a call, explain what happened and see if they can give you advice. 

General Board / To: Stillundecided
« on: July 11, 2004, 08:51:23 AM »
It looks like the thread got locked or something. If you have any questions, please ask. I wasn't involved in the last thread, but I will answer anything for you that I can. Don't worry about the snide remarks of others. What information are you looking for?

General Board / Re: My admission has been cancelled. Help!
« on: July 10, 2004, 09:33:48 PM »
Call and speak to the Dean, NOW. Don't talk to a secretary or admissions worker. Talk to whoever matters and don't get off the phone until you get it resolved.

Do what you will feel comfortable wtih, that is the most important thing. I started off very similar to what you said. I had a separate binder for each class. I had a section for the current day's materials, a section for my class notes and a section for briefs covered in prior class meetings. Once the class would change topics, I started my outline for that class (using my class notes and briefs to construct the outline) and kept my outline for that class in another section.

I would type out the briefs for each class and bring those for that day's assignments. I would bring those to class and use my laptop to type class notes for that day. When I got home, I printed those out (dated and titled for that class) and put those into my folder into their sections.

I used microsoft word for class notes. I made a computer folder for each subject and saved it to the hard drive and also used a separate disc for each class and saved to disc. ALWAYS SAVE IT MORE THAN ONE PLACE. We have had more than one student lose an entire semester of work because they only saved to the hard drive. Once I get done with class that day, I save to the hard drive of my home computer when I am printing notes out for the day.

I no longer bring my binders with me to class, but that is how I started out. I still take my briefs with me to class, take class notes on my laptop, print out class notes when I get home and put them into a folder. I use the same method, I just got tired of carrying everything around. For the first semester, do whatever you need to do to make yourself as comfortable as possible. You can figure out later what you really need and what you do not need.

Good Luck


I made the decision to transfer by speaking to judges and lawyers that I know. All of them leaned toward me transferring, mainly because I was returning to an area where employers would be more likely to recognize my new school (and, the name that would be attached is more prestigious to them. I don't agree with the reasons for it, but I am seeing more and more that it can make a difference). As for your specific situation, make some calls to local attorneys, headhunters or anyone in the field that can give you opinions. To me, that really is the best way to gage how your school will be received. Look for an opinion of someone not affiliated with your current or prospective schools.

To me, law review is pretty important. I'm under the impression that most employers feel it is pretty important. If you don't have it, I'm not sure if doing moot court or things like that can make up for it or not. I just don't know. I was lucky enough to transfer to a school that will let me on if I meet all of their requirements.

Congratulations on your success in law school. I see a lot of people slack after the first semester or so. I know how easy it might be to slip into that, but keep working hard and do your best. Congrats!

If you have any other questions, let me know.



I will be gone all day today and most of tonight so I don't have a chance to answer right now. I will be back tomorrow and I promise to respond then.

General Board / Re: Tape Recorder In Class
« on: July 07, 2004, 10:48:31 AM »
I don't record the classes, but I see nothing wrong with it. I listen to the prof and type my notes in class, structuring it into an outline form as I take notes. I feel like that allows me to understand the material because I am listening to it, but it also allows me to work with it because I have to structure it into an outline at the same time. I do my major class outlne later.

Recording is fine, but I would never just record and sit there and listen. To me, it would just create more work because you have to put it into an outline later anyway. The upside of recording is that you have a copy if you have a hole in your notes or if you didn't really understand the concept fully the first time. Hearing that same concept later, in context and with the verbal inflections or examples that the professor used can help a lot if you are struggling to understand a concept. My advice would be to start out tape recording it and taking notes in class at the same time. You can figure out later if you still need to tape it. Just make sure you get the professor's permission. Most professors don't mind.

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