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Law School Admissions / Re: Call from Harvard
« on: February 08, 2006, 03:46:19 PM »
Deferral here, too (12/16 complete, call around the same time).

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Law School Admissions / Re: Reapplying
« on: February 07, 2006, 09:37:45 AM »
Of the Top 5 plus Chicago and Georgetown, all of them retain your application except for NYU. All of them either require or strongly encourage a new PS and one new LOR. But you don't have to re-send the old LORs, college certification, etc. (except for NYU).

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Law School Admissions / Re: TStock, HLS, and Academia
« on: February 02, 2006, 10:45:34 AM »
Thanks for the info. This means that I have to take back my comment that H beats Y on all of the characteristics reported on the web site (everything except per-student expenditures and library resources), as my calculations did not standardize each of the measures (I would only be able to do that if I had data for all of the law schools, which I do not).

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Law School Admissions / Re: TStock, HLS, and Academia
« on: February 02, 2006, 10:23:15 AM »
That's a good question -- I don't think this is made clear on their website (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). It's possible that they just use the units of whatever they're measuring (and try to use the setting of the weights to compensate for differences in units). USNWR rankings are really awful for many reasons, and this is probably just another one of them...

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Law School Admissions / Re: HLS call & still waiting?
« on: February 02, 2006, 09:41:03 AM »
The calls have often been on Thursdays, but by no means exclusively.

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Law School Admissions / Re: TStock, HLS, and Academia
« on: February 02, 2006, 09:37:43 AM »
I did some calculations using the data for H and Y posted on the USNWR website (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/law/brief/lawrank_brief.php). If you only plug in the data that they post on the website (using their weights), H beats Y. This means that Y beats H on the factors that are listed in their methodology (which have total weights of 12%) but the data for which are not on the website. These are:

1) Expenditures Per Student -- The average expenditures per student for the 2003 and 2004 fiscal years. The average instruction, library, and supporting services (.0975) are measured, as are all other items, including financial aid (.015).

2) Library Resources (.0075) -- The total number of volumes and titles in the school's law library at the end of the 2004 fiscal year.

This means that H doesn't have to change their admissions policies at all to beat Y in the rankings -- they just have to change their expenditures per student (library resources count for too little to matter) -- or change the way that this is calculated (it must be a fairly complicated [i.e., arbitrary] formula given that both YLS and HLS are part of larger universities).

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Law School Admissions / Re: HLS call & still waiting?
« on: February 02, 2006, 09:30:46 AM »
My girlfriend was in the 12/16 complete, so there could be a deferral coming very soon. Although you're right that it's unclear why they would continue the mass deferrals now that the 2/1 deadline has passed.

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Law School Admissions / Re: TStock, HLS, and Academia
« on: February 02, 2006, 09:05:35 AM »
I take it all back. I just checked the USNWR methodology, and yield is not included (only acceptance rate). See http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/about/06law_meth_brief.php.

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Law School Admissions / Re: HLS call & still waiting?
« on: February 02, 2006, 08:56:21 AM »
My girlfriend had the call in mid-December and still hasn't heard anything.

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Law School Admissions / Re: TStock, HLS, and Academia
« on: February 02, 2006, 08:20:15 AM »
I have been told (by a reliable source) that the previous Assistant Dean for Admissions (Toby Stock's current job) was fired because Larry Summers wanted HLS admissions to do more to try to take the #1 USNWR spot (and the previous dean resisted -- rightfully so, in my opinion). My theory, based on this information, is that Toby Stock realizes that he can't do much to boost the GPA and LSAT numbers (without comprising the quality of the class in other ways), so he's focusing his strategy on boosting HLS's yield. The main part of this strategy seems to be deferring applicants who would have been admitted in previous years to see who expresses particular interest in HLS (possibly accept those who seem most likely to matriculate -- thus the "please tell us if you have a particular reason to be in the Boston/Cambridge area"), and perhaps also to give the deferred applicants more time to withdraw if they are set on Yale or Stanford. The phone calls and blog could also be part of such a yield-boosting strategy.

I think it's doubtful that any strategy other than dramatically reducing the size of HLS would change the rankings, but at least Toby Stock can show that he's trying.

Just speculation of course, but not entirely baseless.

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