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Be sure you want to do defense work before you intern with the PD's office.  It's pretty typical that if you've done work with either the PD or DA's office, the other one won't touch you.  So if you want to end up being a prosecutor, but don't think you have the grades to get an internship, do not turn to the PD's office.  It may end up killing you in the long run.


Want to know how serious the honor code is at my school? We have a full page of rules about what we can discuss concerning the memos. We can discuss the cases with classmates BUT we cannot discuss legal conclusions or argument strategies. If you even observe someone violating this rule, you are OBLIGATED to turn them into admin. If you don't, you are just as guilty and will be just as expelled.

How can you discuss a case without discussing legal conclusions to some extent?

We CAN discuss the legal conclusions of the cases researched for the memo BUT we cannot discuss our legal conclusions we'll defend in the body of the memo. You can discuss the cases but NOT the argument you'll make in the memo. Clear? That was my mistake...sorry about that.

I must say, y'all can discuss a lot more than we can.  We were told that even mentioning cases you found was border line honor code violation, because our memos require us to research the issue.  Any sharing of research would be benefiting a fellow student who didn't do the work to find the case.

To the OP's question, I would disclose the infaction. While the law school will most likely never find out about the incident, if anything on your Bar application raises questions, they may dig a little deeper.  If they find out about this, you're screwed.  At that point saying I'm sorry I didn't think it was a big deal will most likely mean sudden death.  But, saying that you made a stupid mistake as a kid, you really regret it, and it will never happen again, they will most likely let it slide. 

Just my $0.02.

Current Law Students / Re: LEEWS
« on: November 22, 2006, 06:31:30 PM »
I've gone through the whole program and agree that most of it was fairly basic and self explanatory.  I'm not sure if this is just how I approach things or if all people would view it this way.  However, I did ace both of my midterms.

That being said, the rest of the program will take you 5-6 hours max to finish.  I'm sorry but I considering we have Thanksgiving weekend coming up I find it hard to believe you won't have that amount of time to complete the program.  If you are going to study every waking hour of every day from now until finals, you have bigger problems that I admit LEEWS can't solve.

Current Law Students / Re: State of the job market...
« on: October 22, 2006, 08:01:00 AM »
My intention was not to engage in a debate.  I just wanted to make the point that if someone who is in the top third of her class and on Law Review, a credential I was led to believe is quite valuable to most employers, and is still unable to get interviews, there is something wrong here.  There can only be one other explanation as to why my classmates are getting interviews:  they are full-time students, whereas I'm a part-time student who has a full-time job. 

Do you network and actually know lawyers or are you just participating in OCI and sending out resumes blindly?

Itís a Decentralized, Chaotic Job Market.  Networking works and is an essential job search tool because the job market (both the
advertised and hidden) is decentralized. The advertised job market has limitations.  It probably represents no more than 10-25% of actual job openings.  It tends to represent positions at the extreme ends of the job spectrum (low paid unskilled or highly paid, highly skilled jobs), even though the majority of positions fall somewhere between these two extremes.  Many positions are filled prior to being advertised.  The hidden job market has the greater opportunity.  75-90% or more of the job opportunities are found here, despite the fact that this market lacks a formal structure.

Current Law Students / Re: I hate Civ Pro
« on: October 11, 2006, 05:50:37 PM »
Under Rule 12(b)(6) I move for dismissal as the OP did not state a claim for which relief may be granted.

Some props to my school:

"The Chancellorís Scholarship program has for the last ten years provided up to 12 full tuition scholarships/year for students with superior academic and public service backgrounds, who make a commitment to using their law degree to advance public interest."

General Off-Topic Board / Re: College Football
« on: January 02, 2007, 05:07:55 PM »

you're joking, right? You think Oregon State could wax the floor with Michigan the way SC did?

Not necessarily, but you said Oregon State was not on par with any of the teams I mentioned, USC was one of the teams I mentioned, and I'm saying they were on par with them this year, actually they were better then them this year on the day they played.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: College Football
« on: January 02, 2007, 03:57:02 PM »

Oregon State is not on par with any of the other teams you mentioned.
And yay Pac-10 going .500 in bowl games.

Big East 3-0   1.000
MWC 3-1   .750
WAC 3-1   .750
ACC 4-3   .571
SEC 4-3   .571
Pac-10 3-3   .500
MAC 1-1   .500
Sun Belt 1-1   .500
Big 12  3-5   .375
Big Ten 2-4   .333
Independents 0-1   .000
C-USA 0-4   .000

hmm...looks like the ACC and SEC are barely ahead of the 500 Pac-10, and the Small 10 and 12 suck horribly.  Wow, look at the WAC way up there.  You saying Oregon State is not on par with those teams?  Well it looks like they were on par with USC this year, and that's the thing, each year in college football is a completely new year.  Do they have the history of the other teams, no, but who cares.  Any team can kick any storied programs ass on any given day.  Just ask Notre Lame about the Oregon State team they played in the Fiesta Bowl a couple of years ago.

All I'm saying is Boise State went undefeated this year, isn't it fair, and wouldn't it be awesome to have a playoff and see if they could earn to play for the National Championship. 

But no, it's much more fun to just crown the storied programs and let them play for the NC, because who wants to watch lowly programs like Boise State because they'll just be blown out by the big boys...oh wait...

General Off-Topic Board / Re: College Football
« on: January 02, 2007, 08:11:59 AM »
I will say this though. Their is no way that BSU deserves a shot at Ohio State. Anyone who says so is an idiot especially all these guys on tv who are supposed to be experts. Boise state plays in a weak conference. I am ok with that. However if u play in a weak conference u have to schedule real teams to play non conference. Texas played Ohio State. USC played Arkansas. OU scheduled Miami for next year back when miami was dominant.

The truth is that u have to play real teams. If teams wont schedule u then u call espn and they will get teams to schedule u. Does anyone have any way to come at my point?

Boise handled Oregon State, Oregon State beat USC, and USC just spanked Michigan, who went down to the wire against Ohio State.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Denver anyone?
« on: September 01, 2006, 11:55:44 PM »
I know I'm going to buy this pass for myself and my wife so I'm going to buy it this weekend, but my question is how much does the price spike after this weekend?

Also, I take it that most people buy the Colorado Pass rather than the Winter Park and Copper Mountain Pass.

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