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Transferring / Re: Did you go to one of these schools and transfer up?
« on: March 04, 2012, 01:14:06 PM »
I love how everyone who posts on the internet is top 5%.

Hah.  I love how people feel the need to post about their skepticism on the Internet for no apparent reason.  I guess I should be more accurate for your sake.  I was in the top 3%. 

Transferring / Re: Did you go to one of these schools and transfer up?
« on: March 04, 2012, 12:41:13 AM »
Do not go to law school expecting to transfer. Poster above did, but he was in the top 5% and there is a 95% chance you won't be in the top 5%. Go to a law school you would be happy being at for 3 years. If you happen to be in the top 5% then think about transferring, but even if you are in the top 5% you are going to be somewhere for a whole year and probably develop relationships within your section that are often to hard to leave. Many people think they will just go to X school and transfer up, but that happens in about 5% of situations.

Legend makes some really good points.  It really wasn't easy getting that highly ranked. It would have been much easier going somewhere I wanted to be for 3 years.  It's not impossible to transfer to a T2, even if you're only in the top half.  However, unfortunately, class rank is vital for most schools considering taking transfer students.  I didn't go to law school expecting to transfer, but I wanted to do IP law.  That basically required a school change.  If you can get into a decently ranked school in a locale you want to practice, that route is likely a better bet. 

Transferring / Re: Did you go to one of these schools and transfer up?
« on: March 02, 2012, 10:49:02 AM »
I went to Cooley and finished in the top 5%.  I transferred to a T2 school in CA.  It was chosen based on location and for its high tech program, though you could probably make the jump to tier 1 finishing in the top 5%.  I also know two ppl who transferred from Florida Coastal to the same school I'm at.  Feel free to pm me if you want more information.

I hear ya.  Never an easy choice. 

I guess it depends on how much you want to do law review.  Big firms love law review, but it seems like this isn't what you want.  From my limited experience, small firms don't care so much about law review.  I transferred and couldn't do law review because of strange rules like that.  I feel that had I done law review, I'd be better situated.  However, I still get interviews without it.  I don't think it's quite "make or break" for small firms as many make it out to be.  Their biggest concern is the school.  It seems to me that small firms love to hire from the schools they attended.  Of course, others may have different opinions, especially in other locales. 

I sympathize with the decision and situation.  I know it's a big decision.  However,  you haven't applied yet right?  So why not cross that bridge when you come to it.  Apply and see what happens (it will only be a few hundred dollars).  You may or may not get in (though I suspect you will being ranked so highly).  If you don't, your choice is simple, right?  If you do, then weight the pros and cons.  I was like you.  Though I didn't have a job, I took fewer credits at my first school.  Turns out studying for 5 finals isn't exactly that difficult.  You're not alone because all other classmates have the same workload.  If you had a successful work ethic at your first school, it will likely translate to a successful work ethic at the next school.    I feel that half the battle is work ethic.  I went from tier 4 to tier 2 and did just as well.  Honestly though, I would bet you would be better than middle of the class at any other school.  I know being ranked highly in a class is of great value to employers, but big firms seem to like to see big name law schools rather than high ranks at lower ranked law schools.  It depends a lot on what you want to do after graduation. 

That being said, happiness is a very high price to pay for a mere chance at switching schools.  If you  are truly happy where you are, why fix what's not broken?  Two years may not seem like a long time in the grand scheme of things, but two years being miserable seems much longer. 

Just my 2 cents. 

*Edit*  One of the schools you mentioned is Berkeley, but you also mentioned an earlier trek to school if you transferred.  Southwestern to Berkeley isn't an earlier trek, it's a move.  I'm sure you're aware that they aren't even remotely close to each other.  I'm not sure about your personal life (family, etc), but moving cities like that isn't a decision to be taken lightly. 

Transferring / Re: T4 --> T4 Continued
« on: January 24, 2012, 03:02:49 PM »
As far as I know, the LSAT is only a tiny piece (if not completely disregarded) during the transfer process.  What really matters to schools is your first year GPA and class rank. 

You should contact their admissions departments.  They will know historical values.  I think lsac has this information also. 

Transferring / Re: Cooley Student Seeking Transfer
« on: November 22, 2011, 10:26:57 AM »
Why do so many people enroll somewhere that they feel they are too good for months into it?

Why didn't you just wait untill you got into a school you wanted to be in?

People cry non stop about student debt and then want to walk into more of it.

See, it's comments like these that don't make any sense.  Why are you so concerned about what other people choose to do?  This blog originated from a person who was at Cooley who WANTED to seek transfer to another school.  While you're entitled to your opinion, why be concerned with someone else's debt/money?  Cooley is not a bad school...I'm not knocking it.  But the bottom line is that it's a school with a lot of baggage.  Some people graduate from Cooley and do great.  Some don't.  But if you have the opportunity to go to a school with a better reputation than Cooley, why hate on that student?  Reputation is all an attorney has out here in the real world and getting that first job is going to be tough in this economy.  Whatever a student can do to make themselves more competitive they should do.

Don't feed the troll!

Anyway, I'm sure you're in the super majority dawnofice2k.  That guy has some sort of personal vendetta against law school.

Transferring / Re: T4 to T4
« on: September 28, 2011, 04:11:38 PM »
What year are you? First year?

I've never heard of anyone doing this before, but I imagine it happens occasionally.  I think a T4 would be happy to have another student transfer to their school.  I can't imagine what grade requirement they would really have, but it certainly would be less than transferring upwards in the rankings.  Why don't you just call the admissions office and ask them what kind of grades they require?  That would be your best bet.

Transferring / Re: Cooley Student Seeking Transfer
« on: September 12, 2011, 10:06:15 PM »
I transferred from there in 2010.  I was in the top 5% and chose a tier 2 in CA, though I'm sure I could have gone to a tier 1 in a different area.  Keep in mind that some schools cap transfer units at 30.  The previous poster was right though.  Pick a region and go from there. 

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