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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Is Testmaster's really  worth $1,250?
« on: March 22, 2003, 12:48:38 PM »
I had this conversation with my roommate as we were walking to one of our 1L exams.  Assuming that these classes really do improve your score, they probably are worth the money.

A few points on your LSAT can make much more than $1k difference in scholarship money, and that's per year.  Overall, I think my roommate and I decided that, (outside of the extreme highs and lows), LSAT points are worth about $1k each.

Will you get much of a point increase?  Well you can usually get your money back if you don't.  Will you get just as much increase by dedicating study time from a book or even just taking lots of practice exams?  No one knows.  There's never an accurate control group.

Hi Nina,

You have nothing to worry about regarding your accent.  There are plenty of thick accents in law school.  You might even have an advantage in getting into law school because the schools want people from different backgrounds.  Being from another country is definitly a plus. (I'm assuming your from another country.  If you're not, you can still make note that english is not your first language and that should help you because it shows you've overcome a language obsticle.)

A couple things:

You might need to work extra hard on your personal statment and your writing skills in general.  Lawyers don't tolerate grammer and spelling mistakes (haha - I'm sure this post is full of them, but no clients, bosses, or judges are going to be reading this).

You should keep in mind that you will get called on in law school, and professors and other students will expect you to do a good job answering the professor's questions.  Some professors go easy on people with accents, while others will  treat you no different than your classmates.  How you speak is not important, what matters is what you say.  Study hard and don't be intimidated when its your turn to talk.  You'll be just fine.

I don't know the implications of citizenship on law school admissions, but I know it's easier to get financial aid (because the US gov't provides student loans, and most private loans require either US citizenship or a US cosigner).

Law School Rankings / Re: Canadian Law Schools vs. American Schools
« on: July 11, 2003, 08:37:01 AM »
Are those Canadian $s?  I should have gone to school up there.

Kate to answer your question - how we afford it - we don't.  Most everyone in the U.S. graduates law school with massive debt.

Note that I've started a section on this board dedicated to Canadian law school discussion:

Law School Rankings / Re: Canadian Law Schools vs. American Schools
« on: July 10, 2003, 06:24:45 AM »
Price is in the neighborhood of USD $25k/year.  (3 year program, I'll assume that's the same for the Canadian schools)

I'm going to let someone else tackle your "how to know if it's good" question, but ABA approved is definitly the way to go.

Law School Rankings / Re: any alternative of usnews ranking?
« on: July 16, 2003, 05:02:35 PM »

Wait List / Who never heard back?
« on: August 25, 2001, 07:57:06 AM »
Now that some schools have started, I'm wondering if others are realizing that they never got an official "no" from your wait-list schools.  I was on two waiting lists and I still haven't heard from either.  It doesn't matter at this point, but do you think they'll ever send me something saying I didn't get in?  

Is it too late to be accepted?  Or are they waiting to see if people drop out?

Wait List / Re: Wisconsin Wait List
« on: March 21, 2003, 12:08:09 PM »
Write them both a letter.  Tell them that you're still very interested in attending because ______.  It might be good to add something that's not in your application, but the idea of the letter is what is important.  If it comes down to you and someone similar, the letter can put you over the top.

Whatever you do though... proof read.  Have at least two other people read your letter before you send it out.  If if comes down to someone with no letter and someone with a typo...

I had some success when I was applying by writing a letter.  It didn't get me in to the school, but it got me on higher and higher waitlists until finally, a week after school started, a rejection (w/ invitation to apply as a transfer).

Good luck!

Wait List / Example Letter
« on: June 09, 2003, 03:43:01 PM »
I've seen a lot of people on this board talking about writing letters to better their chances of getting into a school from the waiting list.  I thought I'd share a letter I wrote when I was applying.  It didn't get me into the school, but it seemed to have a positive effect - got me past two cuts and ultimatly got a nice letter encouraging me to apply as a transfer student.  I ecourage others to post letters to give other a starting point.  Please don't copy my letter, but you're welcome to use it as a reference:

(I edited out a couple things, such as the name of the school.  Things in brackets were not in the original letter.  There are some notes at the bottom.)


Dear [Actual name of admissions officer],

I would first like to thank you for your continued consideration of my application to this fall's class.  As the admissions season progresses, I would also like to update my application and express my continued interest in attending [your badass] Law School this fall.

When I submitted my application in mid December, I was not yet aware that I had graduated with honors from my undergraduate university ([name of school]).  This became apparent when I received my printed diploma at the end of December, and I confirmed it in January via an email correspondence I had with the office of the registrar at [name of school].  The “Honors at Graduation” distinction was earned by my being amongst the top [X%] of my graduating class at graduation.  The [name of school] office of the registrar can be reached at [phone number] should you require verification of this award.

In addition to this application update, I wanted to emphasize my interest in attending [your badass] Law School this fall.  The reputable and distinguished faculty will no doubt be academically stimulating and nurturing to my legal studies, and [your badass school]’s diverse group of experienced and committed students will surely maintain an intellectual environment to which I would be honored to contribute.

My decision to give up my current vocation as a [my job title]at a promising technology company in favor of a legal education required great consideration.  However, working this year has given me an increased appreciation and enthusiasm for technological development, and I think that returning to the technology industry and working in a legal capacity will be even more interesting, challenging, and rewarding.  I believe that my work experience, studies and travels abroad, and undergraduate academic achievements will provide a solid foundation for my legal education, and allow me to make a strong contribution to the student body at [your badass] Law School.

Thank you for your continued consideration.  I look forward to hearing from you.


Andrew Sinclair


As you can see, my letter really had two purposes, first to update my application, and second to beg for admission to the school.  The update really was legit.  I really didn't know I had gotten "honors" and that's certainly the kind of thing you'd want on an application (I'm still a little bitter about that.)  I think it would be perfectly appropriate to write a letter expressing your continued interest without an update, but you might think about things that have changed since you applied that you'd want the school to know (ie, you moved to the area and you really want to stay - or you found a job working for an attorney and you're even more excited about the law school - or you met a distinguised alum, and are even more interested in that particular school as a result.)

Wait List / Re: getting off "the list"
« on: July 31, 2003, 09:40:16 AM »
CH - please do not post the same thing multiple times.  One of the goals of this board is to keep things organized.

I think that, if those judges are willing to call to put in a word for you, you should encourage them to do so.  There's nothing wrong with talking to people and having them willfully express their true opinion about you.

The wait-list scenario is a little different than the main pool.  Too many people sent deposits and there wasn't room for you.  You're obviously qualified or you wouldn't have been waitlisted.  There's nothing wrong with encourage the school to give the next open spot.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Who's going to BU?
« on: June 28, 2001, 07:34:43 AM »
Yeah I found a place.  I haven't actually signed a lease yet though.  The place is ammmmaaazing.  Found two other 1Ls (all guys so far).  We need one more.  Anyone interested?  Email me if so.

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