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Law School Applications / Re: How many schools to apply to?
« on: July 02, 2003, 09:46:32 PM »
I really doubt they care what other schools you applied to.  I don't have any solid evidence to back that up though...

How then do I justify the fact that they ask you this on the application itself?  I think they use that information to better market the school.  They want to see what the competition is.

I suppose I could imagine a scenario where the admissions office sees that you're applying to a better school (where you'll probably get in based on your application), and they deny admission under the assumption that you would decline an offer of acceptance and lower their rate in the rankings (that is one of the factors right?  or is it?).  I honestly don't think that kind of numbers flexing goes on, but maybe I'm just too much of an idealist.

Now I must sleep.

Law School Applications / Re: How many schools to apply to?
« on: June 29, 2003, 07:36:08 PM »
A lot of law schools (all?) use the LSADS "Law School Data Assembly Service".  Basically you send all your stuff to them and they send it out to the schools.  More info here:

As for recomendations, I'm not sure (it's been a while since I applied).  I would read the requirements for each school and see what they say.  I remember some schools asking for one and others for two recomendations.  Some schools also want a "deans letter" that certifies that you're in good academic standing or whatever.

Recomendations and deans letters can be a big hang-up if you don't plan well in advance.  Most schools won't consider your application until *everything* is in, so having a late deans letter can hurt you more than it should.

Law School Applications / Re: How many schools to apply to?
« on: June 27, 2003, 08:48:39 AM »
I'd recommend somewhere between 6 and 10.  You can categorize them by your odds of getting in.  At least one given (where you're almost surely accepted), a few probablys, a couple maybes, and a couple probably nots.

I went a little overboard on the probably nots and ended up just throwing away money.  Each application costs around $70, so it was a big waste of money to apply to schools where I had a 2% chance of getting in.

A couple other things to consider.  Any numbers / probabilities you see will always be outdated (unless they're from the year your applying, in which case they offer no guidence over where to apply because it would already be too late).  Therefore you should be carefull relying on the odds.  The trend right now is for the odds of getting in to decrease, not increase.

Secondly, think about how important rank is to you.  If your barely getting into schools you're unlikely to get any scholarships, but if you're over qualified you can go to law school for a lot less money.  I honestly don't think the education is that different depending on the rank of the school.  There are lot of other factors (ie - which professors you get) that will make a big difference.  Reputation is important in getting a job, which is probably something you want to do - but its not necessarily that higher ranked is better.  Location, alumni, and specific reputation (ie "good public interest school") play important roles.

Okay - that was a little more than you asked for...

Law School Applications / New LLM board
« on: April 12, 2003, 12:28:38 PM »
Applying to an LLM program?  There's a new category for you on the Students' & Graduates' board.


LSAT horror stories / Re: My horror story
« on: June 27, 2001, 03:59:24 PM »
Really?  So what happened?  It's been a couple weeks.  Are you keeping your score?

Did someone shut it off on purpose?  Or was it more like an equipment malfunction?  Either way - sounds rough.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: It's almost here!
« on: May 31, 2001, 08:46:58 PM »
I agree - I was soooo close to cancelling mine.  I was filling out the paper which had to be faxed that day.  I guess I just couldn't bring myself to fill out that form, go find a fax machine, never know my score...

I didn't cancel it, got a good score, and saved months of studying.  It's hard to judge what you're going to get.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Can I opt for a computer-based LSAT?
« on: July 15, 2002, 12:41:56 PM »
When I took the LSAT in June 2000 we started with a survey of what we would think of a computerized version.  I guess nothing came of that.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Practice LSAT...
« on: March 13, 2003, 03:28:16 AM »
I don't think the first practice LSAT you blindly take is a very good representation of your LSAT abilities at all.  Take a couple more to get an idea where you stand.  Also, be careful of unofficial practice tests.  I found them good for practice but I always got much lower scores than on the real ones (presumably this is because I was working from a book that wanted me to get a better score on the real test so I'd think, "oh, that book helped so much...").

That said, a book or class will help a little.  There are a lot of strategies you can try.  For example, on the games section (this wasn't in my book) I found that there was never enough to time to complete the section perfectly.  It was better to narrow down the answers to two and pick the more likely one.  Better to answer all the questions with 80% certainty than to answer 70% of the questions with 100% certainty.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Kaplan Course books
« on: May 06, 2003, 05:22:37 AM »
It's probably legal to re-sell your copy of a book under the first-sale doctrine of copyright, but I don't know whether Kaplan has an agreement with you not to resell the books.

I recommend, but you could also try (or try to make a deal with someone on this board).

Studying for the LSAT / Re: What should i study from?
« on: May 25, 2003, 07:43:49 AM »
I don't know much about the diffilculty level of various exams - maybe someone else can step in on that question - but I will say that the LSAT is curved.  It's my understanding that percentile determines score, not the other way around (could be wrong on that), so the difficulty (in getting a good score at least) is a factor of other's performance.  On that note, I've wondered if different tests are easier than others (for example, if the June test is full of less-motivated people because it's too late to apply for that same year - or the converse, the June test is made up of people re-taking the exam, and are thus more prepared).  But I digress...

In my opinion, taking old, real LSATs is the best thing to do.  I'd also suggest learning some tips and strategy from a book or a class.  Regardless of a real LSAT's difficulty, it should never be counterproductive to take it.  You're learning the type of questions, how to manage your time, and developing your own strategy based on your mind and your pace.

Four months is mountains of time.  Take a full test every Saturday morning and you'll be more than prepared.

Good luck!

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