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Current Law Students / Re: I am really bad at making decisions
« on: April 11, 2012, 05:43:47 AM »
Your transcript says it was a clinic.  It should be listed as a clinical class on your resume and referred to as such in conversation.  Former clerks are very anal about this because interns and externs are (1) generally less credentialed than clerks; and (2) given lesser forms of work. 

Trust me on this.  I'm  not trying to be an a-hole - just trying to warn you (and others) on this board of the consequences of (possibly inadvertently) listing it as "clerkship" experience.

Good luck on your legal career, though.  I have a feeling that all is not lost.  Sometimes you have to send out 1,000 resumes and cover letters to get a job.  The good thing for you is that you only need one bite out of the 1,000.  If I were you, I would seriously consider peppering ALL of the local small firms with cover letters and resumes.  Use Martindale, Westlaw, Yellow Pages, etc.  Someone out there could probably use an associate. 

Pursuing an LLM / Re: Perks to an LLM
« on: April 11, 2012, 01:17:06 AM »

(1) You are a foreign student, but you backdoor your way into US legal practice through an LLM;
(2) You were not originally qualified for Biglaw, but you get a tax LLM from one of the top schools and backdoor your way into Biglaw.


Current Law Students / Re: I am really bad at making decisions
« on: April 11, 2012, 01:15:10 AM »
2L at a TTTT... I've done some clerking for a judge this last semester

No, you haven't clerked for a judge.  What you did is either an "internship" or "externship".  You didn't clerk.  This drives me crazy.  This may be why you're getting dinged at the firms you're applying to.  If you put that on your resume and I was the hiring partner (who has clerked), I'd instantly throw it in the trash.

Not sure why people can't get this right - are you deliberately trying to puff up your qualifications or are you just that ignorant?

Job Search / Re: Federal Judicial Clerkship Interview
« on: April 10, 2012, 02:58:32 AM »
Unofficial will do, unless otherwise stated.  Good luck.

Black Law Students / Re: I need some good advise......
« on: April 02, 2012, 12:04:06 AM »
I'm guessing you didn't get any scholarship money?  If not, I wouldn't go.

Feel free to PM me if you need any more info.

Law School Admissions / Re: could this help me get in?
« on: April 01, 2012, 03:35:28 AM »
You'll get in everywhere you apply!

I have no other choice to attend a 4 tier at this point, and I am pretty confident that I will be able to transfer out..

BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!  You and everyone else at your T4 are "pretty confident" that they will transfer out.  Since only the top 5-10% will have that opportunity, that leaves a good 90-95% that are SOL.  You shouldn't go to a law school in hopes that you will transfer out - the odds are stacked pretty heavily against you.  But, good luck to you, you'll need it!

getting into law school is an accomplishment in and of itself and something to be proud of.

No.  It used to be an accomplishment - until more and more law schools opened up that started admitting anyone with a pulse.

Take the $200k you would otherwise blow on law school and invest in a casino.  You'll make more money.

If you have to go to law school, since you're not competitive for the top 14, select the state in which you want to practice and go to the highest ranked law school within that state that you can get into.

Job Search / Re: Studying for the BAR, huge DEBT, no JOB, WHAT DO DO?
« on: March 19, 2012, 11:06:24 PM »
Nice.  We're actually about even on the stats.

Thomas M. Cooley / Re: Is it worth it?
« on: March 19, 2012, 04:50:49 AM »
The argument that those still in school are having a "hell of a time" finding work is just dumb. Of course they are, they have no experience. Have them crawl back to daddy and sleep on his couch while they suck on their thumb and cry while posting on LSD how hard life is and how better they are than others.

Pay your dues, move up the ranks, or kill youself. Either way.Fuckit.  :'(

What may be obvious to you is not obvious to the many that frequent these boards. 

Further, your comment that the argument that students are having a "hell of a time" finding work is dumb because they lack experience is misguided.  The same comment surely could not have been made in 2007, where bigger lawfirms were hiring virtually anyone in the T14 with a pulse.

People realize that the economy is bad, but I'm not sure that they also realize things are equally bad - if not moreso - for attorneys.  People often tell me that they want to go to law school to "ride out the recession."  I laugh in their faces.

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