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Law School Admissions / Re: Girlfriends rejections
« on: May 27, 2010, 07:13:35 AM »
She said the reasons why she was rejected  was because she applied late, and now shes saying its because of the missing information to LSAC (which she took care of the second she found out about it and had them rush the transcripts to LSAC for updating)

I just want to make sure she isnt lying to me or leaving out details.

Based on what you've told us, I don't think she's lying.  If she applied late and wasn't aware her application was incomplete, she would assume the lateness was the reason she was rejected.  Some of the schools may have rejected her because her application was incomplete.  After she found out her application was incomplete, she would assume she was rejected because her application was incomplete.

Law School Admissions / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: April 27, 2010, 06:45:01 AM »
Yes an no. No it won't help your undergrad degree GPA, but HELL YES!!! It'll help you're "cumulative GPA" which is a huge part of what the LSAC shows on your LSDAS file. It merges ALL schools together. That's why some guys who had bad GPA's at one school and transfer to another and graduate with a 4.0 there still can have a 2.75 on their file that lawschools see. So yeah, it may be worth it.

That "cumulative GPA" only includes coursework taken before one receives one's first bachelor's degree.  Since the OP has received a degree already, any coursework he takes now will be considered graduate coursework and not included in his cumulative GPA.

Law School Admissions / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: March 31, 2010, 10:05:13 AM »
Like the above poster said, only courses that were completed to get your bachelors degree count. (Your first bachelors degree--going back and getting a new one won't help either.)

Actually, it's not only courses completed to get your first bachelor's degree.  It's college-level coursework completed before one receives one's first bachelor's degree. 

To illustrate the distinction: Suppose I'm working on a Bachelor's Degree at State University and I spot a great-sounding cooking class at Community College.  If I take that cooking class and don't transfer it to State University, it's not taken to get my bachelor's degree.  However, it is included in my LSAC GPA.

Law School Admissions / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: March 30, 2010, 07:42:24 AM »
In a word, no.  Any coursework you take after receiving your Bachelor's degree is considered graduate coursework and isn't included in one's LSAC GPA.  On one's grade summary, it is not summarized, and the report simply says "see transcript."

I know this because I took a sophomore-level counseling course for my own edification after receiving my bachelor's degree.  What really annoyed me was that I got an "A" in the course and it didn't help my LSAC GPA.

I'm going to make myself unpopular here and say that the answer might very well be yes.  I don't think that your physics background matters very much.  What schools want are people who will come in and boost their statistics.  The 4.0 in basket weaving will probably trump the 2.0 in physics.

It depends on what the OP means by "wasting my time."  If the OP wants to get into a T1 or T2 school, I agree with you.  However, the data in the 2010 Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools UGPA/LSAT Search includes plenty of schools (alibet with lower rankings) at which someone with the OP's numbers would have a 75% chance of being admitted.  Here's the URL:

It is also a terrible idea to go to school based on the assumption that you will transfer somewhere better.  Everybody's trying to do that, but not everyone can do it.

True, but if one finds a less prestigious school that suits one's needs, there's no harm done if one decides not to transfer at the end of one's first year.

Law School Admissions / Re: Studio Art major applying to law school..
« on: March 22, 2010, 10:19:31 AM »
"Art and law/business are very different fields but for me it is a good mix."

I'm a performing artist, so I understand some of the issues you're facing.  Art and law are not as unrelated as one would think at first.  My first-choice law school has a "Law, Technology and the Arts" program with classes taught by intellectual property faculty.  Also, if an graphic design firm or museum wanted to hire an attorney, don't you think a candidate with a visual art background would be preferable to a scientist-type who knows nothing about art?

I'd suggest you speak with the Dean of Academic Affairs at your law school. Given the time that has elapsed, there could be issues, and the dean would be able to identify, explain and interpret the relevant ABA standard.

If you haven't already asked for that letter, may I make a suggestion?  Go ahead and register with LSAC and purchase your LSDAS subscription now.  It's not too early.  I registered this year, and my account expires in 2015.

When using the LSDAS LOR service, you'll have a paper form each recommendation writer will need to attach to his/her letter when he/she sends it to LSAC.  If your boss sends the letter and the form to LSAC, it will be in your LSDAS file when it's time for you to apply.  That will be one less document about which to worry when you're getting together your documents.

Law School Admissions / Re: LSDAS GPA and other admissions concerns.
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:53:10 AM »
I have a couple websites that may be of interest to you.

First, there's a site called "Law School Numbers" that gives self-reported admissions statistics of people applying for law school.  What's particularly interesting is if you go to the "Schools" menu, select a school, and go to the "graphs" tab.  You'll see that while one's GPA and LSAT score tend to correlate with one's admission chances, but high grades and LSATs don't guarantee one will be admitted.

Second, there's the ABA's Official Guide to Law Schools (  If you select the UGPA/LSAT Search option, you can see what your chances are of getting admitted to various law schools.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: What are the chances???
« on: January 14, 2010, 08:37:31 AM »
LSAC has a neat tool for estimating one's chances of getting admitted to a particular school.  It's at

Regarding your age:  If 30 is "old," then I'm ancient.  ;)

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