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Law School Applications / Re: 3.9/152
« on: July 06, 2010, 03:06:05 PM »
My favorite site for that question is's "UGPA/LSAT Search."  I prefer it over Law School Numbers because LSN assumes that everyone is telling the truth.  The Official Guide's drawback is that it doesn't give information about scholarships awarded.

The LSAC has a free practice LSAT on its website at  Take it to get an idea of where your score might be if you took the test for real. 

Or, you can see if Kaplan is offering a proctored practice test in your area.  The Kaplan practice test is free, but it's designed to give Kaplan a group of people to whom they can market their test prep courses.  At the end of the practice test, they'll offer you a discounted rate on the test prep classes.  Don't feel pressured to sign up -- they'll e-mail you more coupons later.

After you have an idea of what your LSAT score might be, go to the UGPA/LSAT search screen of the Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools at and plug in your numbers.

I'd suggest plugging your stats into the UGPA/LSAT search screen of the Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools at  That will give you a general idea of your chances.

Law School Applications / Re: Ask for your help, about GPA!
« on: June 01, 2010, 12:30:49 PM »
Ditto to PP -- See for more information.

LSAC and LSDAS / Re: Girlfriends rejections
« on: May 27, 2010, 10:13:35 AM »
She said the reasons why she was rejected  was because she applied late, and now shes saying its because of the missing information to LSAC (which she took care of the second she found out about it and had them rush the transcripts to LSAC for updating)

I just want to make sure she isnt lying to me or leaving out details.

Based on what you've told us, I don't think she's lying.  If she applied late and wasn't aware her application was incomplete, she would assume the lateness was the reason she was rejected.  Some of the schools may have rejected her because her application was incomplete.  After she found out her application was incomplete, she would assume she was rejected because her application was incomplete.

Law School Applications / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: April 27, 2010, 09:45:01 AM »
Yes an no. No it won't help your undergrad degree GPA, but HELL YES!!! It'll help you're "cumulative GPA" which is a huge part of what the LSAC shows on your LSDAS file. It merges ALL schools together. That's why some guys who had bad GPA's at one school and transfer to another and graduate with a 4.0 there still can have a 2.75 on their file that lawschools see. So yeah, it may be worth it.

That "cumulative GPA" only includes coursework taken before one receives one's first bachelor's degree.  Since the OP has received a degree already, any coursework he takes now will be considered graduate coursework and not included in his cumulative GPA.

Law School Applications / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: March 31, 2010, 01:05:13 PM »
Like the above poster said, only courses that were completed to get your bachelors degree count. (Your first bachelors degree--going back and getting a new one won't help either.)

Actually, it's not only courses completed to get your first bachelor's degree.  It's college-level coursework completed before one receives one's first bachelor's degree. 

To illustrate the distinction: Suppose I'm working on a Bachelor's Degree at State University and I spot a great-sounding cooking class at Community College.  If I take that cooking class and don't transfer it to State University, it's not taken to get my bachelor's degree.  However, it is included in my LSAC GPA.

Law School Applications / Re: improving your GPA ??
« on: March 30, 2010, 10:42:24 AM »
In a word, no.  Any coursework you take after receiving your Bachelor's degree is considered graduate coursework and isn't included in one's LSAC GPA.  On one's grade summary, it is not summarized, and the report simply says "see transcript."

I know this because I took a sophomore-level counseling course for my own edification after receiving my bachelor's degree.  What really annoyed me was that I got an "A" in the course and it didn't help my LSAC GPA.

I'm going to make myself unpopular here and say that the answer might very well be yes.  I don't think that your physics background matters very much.  What schools want are people who will come in and boost their statistics.  The 4.0 in basket weaving will probably trump the 2.0 in physics.

It depends on what the OP means by "wasting my time."  If the OP wants to get into a T1 or T2 school, I agree with you.  However, the data in the 2010 Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools UGPA/LSAT Search includes plenty of schools (alibet with lower rankings) at which someone with the OP's numbers would have a 75% chance of being admitted.  Here's the URL:

It is also a terrible idea to go to school based on the assumption that you will transfer somewhere better.  Everybody's trying to do that, but not everyone can do it.

True, but if one finds a less prestigious school that suits one's needs, there's no harm done if one decides not to transfer at the end of one's first year.

"Art and law/business are very different fields but for me it is a good mix."

I'm a performing artist, so I understand some of the issues you're facing.  Art and law are not as unrelated as one would think at first.  My first-choice law school has a "Law, Technology and the Arts" program with classes taught by intellectual property faculty.  Also, if an graphic design firm or museum wanted to hire an attorney, don't you think a candidate with a visual art background would be preferable to a scientist-type who knows nothing about art?

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