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Sorry to say, but Duke and other Duke-range schools are pretty unlikely given your LSAT score.  The MS probably won't count for much, and the GPA's not so spectacular that it will outweigh the relatively low LSAT score.

And, if they asked my opinion of some school I know nothing about it Alabama or New Hampshire, I would probably just make a guess based on the previous U.S. News data.

This is why the reputation scores only really make sense for the top 15-20 schools, which as someone pointed out is about how far USNews makes sense.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: New England Law Boston?
« on: January 26, 2011, 03:22:15 AM »
I was just accepted into New England Law in Boston. Still waiting to hear back from Widener and St. John's. I can't find much online about New England Law reviews... Is it a good school? Also got into Barry University and Florida Coastal but may decline those for New England...

What do you mean by "a good school?"  Is a school that teaches you enough to pass the bar "a good school" (as bigs seems to suggest)?  Are you looking for a school that will provide a good return on investment in terms of your earning capacity?  Are you exceptionally wealthy and just looking for a degree to hang on your wall?  I know it seems a little silly to ask, but the answer to your question depends on what you mean by "good."

So I have a 163 LSAT and a 3.53 GPA from a business school in the Boston area.  I love to work and would love a shot at BigLaw.  These are the schools I have to choose from.  I'd like to know where my best shot at BigLaw is, and if you'd like any advice on where you would choose to go is appreciated.

- Washington & Lee
- Pepperdine
- Colorado
- Cincinnati
- Ohio State


A shot, yes.  A realistic shot?  Not really.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Accepted at Cooley....HELP
« on: January 22, 2011, 06:37:21 AM »
the white rabbit, that's what I mean.  Law firms both know and have some say in where law schools rank in general (I don't mean the exact number, but they know how the schools that feed into their market compare. 

Right, but they probably don't LOOK at rankings lists to figure this out. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Accepted at Cooley....HELP
« on: January 21, 2011, 03:27:54 AM »
Law firms and judges care once again how the school is ranked in a particular region.

I think lawyers and judges probably already have an idea of how schools stand in their particular region, and that they are not looking to USNWR for guidance on this.

I tend to  look at the positives not the negatives in terms of the legal marketplace.  Look at it from this standpoint:  Society will probably become more and more litigious as the years go by.  History has proven this to be true.   Next,  as the middle class people no longer enjoy jobs such as 25 dollar an hour janitors or non skilled laborers making 50k a year-  these middle class and also lower income people will certainly want to become claimants against someone to pay the bills (goverment, former employer, insurance company).  Lawyers will certainly have to be involved in either of these situations.

Even if this highly speculative scenario actually does unfold, all it means is that there will be a group of people who don't have money to pay legal fees trying to get legal services.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Accepted at Cooley....HELP
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:59:51 AM »
However, if you know what you are getting into and bust your ass it is POSSIBLE to have a successful career as a lawyer from Cooley.

Everything's POSSIBLE.  That doesn't mean that everything's worth $100k in non-dischargeable student loans to attempt.  Also, I think that $100k is on the low end in terms of the associated debt?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: so discouraged and need some advice
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:49:58 AM »
I don't understand how you can rationally think anyone can be in the top 20% when only 20% of people can be in the top 20%.

1. The Lakers are about to play the Celtics.
2. Either team could win.
3. Only one team actually will win.

This is the greatest time to open new firms, lots of people need attorneys and many are going to use local, low cost attorneys over big firms. I know SEVERAL people who have rented small buildings and started their own firms and all are doing very well for themselves. These people all went to tier 3 schools and made 75-80k net their first year out working for themselves. Now two of these same people are so busy from word of mouth and small amounts of advertising that they have actually hired another attorneys to work for them. Also, when you run your own business you are able to form a llc and pay yourself a very small salary which will allow you to pay the minimum amount on student loans. Eventually the debt will be forgiven and all will be good.

Almost all wrong.  A few points:

- Big firms have never competed for things like divorce actions, probate, criminal defense, etc. (except when the parties involved were particularly rich), so people needing local, low-cost lawyers is nothing new
- A new business involves start-up costs (rent, malpractice insurance), which most recent grads can't pay out of pocket and will have a hard time borrowing with student loans already hanging over their heads
- Even if you manage to start up a new law firm, you'll still have to compete with existing small firms that have actual experience in legal practice
- You can pay the minimum on your loans regardless of how much you make, so no benefit there
- Any assumptions about impending loan forgiveness are speculative at best

Which is not to say starting one's own firm can't be done, just that it's not as easy as you make it sound, and that there's no reason why now is a better time than any other.

Law School Admissions / Re: Late start on app, splitter (176/3.32), help!
« on: January 15, 2011, 08:38:28 AM »
Boston U
Ohio State

Aim higher.  With your numbers, these are all safeties or low targets.  Nothing on this list even resembles a reach (which for you would be a top five school).

Also, wait until next cycle and apply as soon as applications are being accepted.

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