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General Board / Re: breakup before/after bar exam?...
« on: May 21, 2011, 11:35:49 AM »
Extremely tormented.  Not sure what to do.  Advice?  What would YOU do???

I would not think about it for the next two months. Right before the bar is no time for needless distractions or drama.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: All Online Law School Students
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:35:48 PM »
There is more to Pennoyer than just the concept of personal jurisdiction. 

But that's all that's still important about it.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: All Online Law School Students
« on: May 20, 2011, 08:38:44 AM »
Here I was under the impression that the real significance of Pennoyer was to root the concept of personal jurisdiction in the Fourteenth Amendment.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Top 6 vs. money
« on: May 19, 2011, 06:02:17 AM »
...6 could very easily be 9th next year and 9th or 10th could be 6. Nobody would be blown away if Virginia moved to 6 and NYU was number 9...

Actually, if NYU were 9 next year, it would probably raise quite a few eyebrows (and it would be a mix of, "what's going on with NYU" and "wow USNWR is even more worthless than we thought").

But again, this is quibbling.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Top 6 vs. money
« on: May 17, 2011, 11:25:11 PM »
As far as I am concerned, there is no particular difference between NYU and Georgetown.

I'd say that there's probably a noticeable difference between hiring at NYU versus hiring at Georgetown, but that's just quibbling.  My point is that toward the top of the rankings, the ranks actually are somewhat reflective of reality and not as completely arbitrary as are the distinctions between say 100 and 125.  1-6 will therefore remain more consistent than say, 101-106.  That's not to say there's a magic line between 6 and 7 (there is not, in my opinion).

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Top 6 vs. money
« on: May 17, 2011, 11:16:55 PM »
In response to White Rabbit even T14 schools jump there is no consistency even there that is how bad the U.S. News ranking system is.

T14 Schools that did move from 2010-2011
1.   Yale
2.   Harvard
3.   Stanford
4.   Columbia
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown, but they are now in a tie for 14th with Texas Georgetown was alone in 14th last year.

T14 schools that moved from 2010 to 2011
Chicago was tied for 6th in 2010 so it might have been 7th in 2010 anyways they are no soley in 5th.
NYU went from 5th in 2010 to 6th in 2011
Penn went from 8th to a tie for 7th so maybe they are 6th or 7th this year they are tied for 7th after all so hard to say.
Michigan went from 9th in 2010 into the tie for 7th with Penn.
Duke from a 3 way tie for 10th in 2010 to 11th in 2011
Northwestern part of the 3 way tie for 10th in 2010 moved to 12th.
Virginia from part of the 3 way tie for 10th in 2010 moved to 9th

Biggest Jump in the T14 schools from 2010 to 2011 this strongly proves my point
Berkeley was tied for 6th in 2010, which is the number the OP wants and in 2011 Berkeley is now tied for 9th with Virginia. Had the OP said I can only go to a school ranked 6th when his second year started he would be 9th.

...and that's why I said "pretty consistent toward the very top" and not "fixed within the Top 14."  See these little nuances matter.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Top 6 vs. money
« on: May 17, 2011, 07:56:25 AM »
One more point: best not to lump all "biglaw" together.  Firms are not all created equal.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Top 6 vs. money
« on: May 17, 2011, 07:53:25 AM »
I would discount any discussion of how much the top six are going to change from year to year.  While the USNWR rankings are totally flawed, they're actually pretty consistent toward the very top. 

Also, there's a significant element of chance involved in law school performance; a 50% student at Stanford probably has a higher likelihood of performing better at a lower-ranked school, but there's definitely not enough of a guarantee that I would put any faith in it.

Finally, I question whether any law school is worth the sticker price--not so much because I don't think law school is worthwhile for some, but because even the top six schools are, in my opinion, seriously overpriced.

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Transferring / Re: Touro to...some other place in NY
« on: March 26, 2011, 09:16:10 AM »
It depends on how you define "Big Law" exactly, but 15-20% is almost certainly optimistic in terms of chances for Big Law out of law school.  I'd say single digits is more likely.

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Transferring / Re: Touro to...some other place in NY
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:28:10 PM »
I think that Brooklyn is definitely better in terms of employment prospects, but $40k better?  Yikes!  Are they the only place where you applied to transfer?  Any chance you could continue to live at home and take the LIRR in?

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