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Law School Applications / Re: 173 LSAT, question with my GPA
« on: July 29, 2010, 01:02:42 AM »
Flat out wrong but not as harsh as jamie.  My hypothetical has a great shot at at least one of CCN if not all.

Undergraduate school matters a lot.  A 3.5 GPA from a mediocre state school is vastly different from a 3.5 from Columbia.  CCN may take a small handful of students from mediocre state school while they may take 20-40 students from Columbia College.  Grade trends such as OP's do matter.  One bad year and 3 years of almost 4.0.

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Law School Applications / Re: 173 LSAT, question with my GPA
« on: July 28, 2010, 11:24:31 PM »
Where did you go to law school and what were your numbers?  I don't want to go through all your posts to find them.  I'm not taking it personally at all. I just think you are wrong and have a very negative view that does not reflect reality.

Let me ask you one question that should clear it all up for everyone.

How good of a chance at CCN do you think of the following hypothetical person?

Columbia undergrad/3.5 with 3.9 sophomore through senior years/173 LSAT/some work experience? 

Keep in mind I stated from the beginning that undergraduate school will matter a lot and we don't know which school OP went to.



I don't know your background but you are still being too harsh.  You are the type of person I hope never ends up on an admissions board.  3.5 from a quality school and a 173 LSAT already gives a great but not automatic shot at CCN.  It is amusing that you equate quality school with HYP.  A 3.5 from any of the Ivy League schools and other comparable schools and a 173 LSAT makes a very good numbers app.  Adding the fact that the OP only ruined one year and has a 3.98 the rest of the years makes his chances at HLS much greater if quality of college is decent to good.

You are right that there is not anything exceptional in OP's soft factors that he wrote in the original post, so Y is out and chances are slim at S.  OP still has reasonable shot at H and should apply thinking he has a legitimate shot.

A great shot at CCN? No. A shot? Yes. CCN is most likely a reach. Again, absent a story, those ones will be hard.

You seem to be taking this very personally for some reason. I personally don't care if the OP chooses to apply to every T-14 school. But it's best to be realistic about the situation and I don't believe it's helpful for applicants to fluff them up and have them think that they've got better chances at schools than they do. I personally don't think that HYP are the only quality schools, but those are the schools that get the boost.

In any event, I'm not going to sit and list my resume, but there's a reason why I said what I did in this thread. OP can either choose to listen to someone who has been through the process, or listen to a 0L. Up to him.

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wow  :o  That is really overkill.



What other personal questions does the Bar ask of you besides plagiarism and criminal charges?

It goes far, far beyond that.  Granted, I am only admitted in two jurisdictions, but they were pretty consistent and I feel fairly comfortable extrapolating.

They will want to know everywhere you have lived, ever (actually, California only wanted to know where I had lived after high school).  All your driving records from everywhere you have driven.  Every job you have ever held, every school you have attended.  "Every" and "all" are words that appear frequently on the moral character evaluation questionnaire.  Every lawsuit you have ever been involved in.  Any other professional license (or bar admission) you have held or been denied.  Any sanctions brought against you by any professional body.  Professional references, personal references. And they will contact all the references.  Bankruptcies, credit defaults, positions of trust held, mental illness, etc.  It is quite extensive.

My first admission was slowed down because I had entered a date wrong, which led to a stern inquiry as to where exactly I had spent the months of June and July when I was two years old.  No joke.

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Hi Everyone,

I am a newbie to this site and I need some advice.  I am looking to score in the 170's on my LSAT exam.  I scored a 129 on my diagnostic lsat exam and I need some advice on how to raise my score.  Currently, I am taking a prep course.  However, I would like to know if you can give me any advice on supplemental reads.

Thanks very much,

Strong Willed :)

Everyone should always aim for 180 and put in as much time as possible.  Then if you fall short like everyone does except a lucky few then you deal with it.  Always believe you can do it until you put in all the effort possible!!!!

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Is Cooley Law School That Bad?
« on: July 28, 2010, 09:14:49 PM »
I'm basing it on fact.

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That record will always be there and you will need to report it to the bar


This is an important point that was passed by.  Getting into law school is one thing - getting admitted to the bar is another thing entirely.  States vary, but all states undertake some degree of background investigation.

If you admit to being accused of plagiarism, it will cause a problem for your admission.  If you do not mention this on your bar application, and the records have been deleted at your college, the bar may never find out, but it they do - at ANY point of your ENTIRE professional career - you will face some very serious sanctions.  Those bar admission folks don't have a sense of humor, and they don't like being lied to.

What other personal questions does the Bar ask of you besides plagiarism and criminal charges?

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Law School Applications / Re: 173 LSAT, question with my GPA
« on: July 28, 2010, 08:56:43 PM »
I don't know your background but you are still being too harsh.  You are the type of person I hope never ends up on an admissions board.  3.5 from a quality school and a 173 LSAT already gives a great but not automatic shot at CCN.  It is amusing that you equate quality school with HYP.  A 3.5 from any of the Ivy League schools and other comparable schools and a 173 LSAT makes a very good numbers app.  Adding the fact that the OP only ruined one year and has a 3.98 the rest of the years makes his chances at HLS much greater if quality of college is decent to good.

You are right that there is not anything exceptional in OP's soft factors that he wrote in the original post, so Y is out and chances are slim at S.  OP still has reasonable shot at H and should apply thinking he has a legitimate shot.

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Law School Applications / Re: 173 LSAT, question with my GPA
« on: July 28, 2010, 07:13:32 PM »
and OP, good luck

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Plagiarism is such an ugly word.  If you copy a couple phrases people act like you burned the Bible or flag.  If you copy paragraphs OTOH then I think you deserve to be burned.

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I don't think anyone would write a post of that length from a phone but I'll cut him some slack. 

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