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I would definitely prefer something legal related, especially since I do have about 16 months before starting school but I haven't been able to find anything. I check my undergrad's career services and a host of job search engines daily.

I'm trying to hold out for something that will actually add to my resume rather than have no effect or detract but the money is getting really tight. Actually, I mean tight as in $0. My 12 year old sister has more in her savings than I do. It's sad. If she asks me to take her to get ice cream, she has to agree to pay for both of us  8)

Really it's a waiting game and how long can I hold out for. I graduated last December and was contemplating moving out of state and next steps and all so I've only really been at the job search for about 5 weeks.

But so far it sucks 

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Ok - that timing makes sense now. I'm relieved since that will make my list a lot shorter.

And as for gaps - I have a summer between internships where I didn't work but hopefully that's occasioanlly expected during undergrad (I actually watched my nephew during that time and my sister paid me good $$ but I never actually put her down as an "employer")

Thanks!

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Whoa - I had no idea I would need that. Thanks for filling me in. Please tell me that the bar doesn't care if I've had a ton of little jobs here and there thoughout high school, right? As long as it was legal employment? It sucks to have to put down so much history - and how bad does somewhere like, oh, say, Hooters look?

Let me make sure I get it - I'll need the info for every job I have ever held for the past ten years from when I'll be taking the bar? So if I take it when I'm 27, I'll need employers from 17-27.  :o

But as for "until you were 18" - is that list employers I worked for up until the time I was 18 or since the time I was 18?

I know it seems simple but I'm a little confused. And thanks again for the warning. I'll be working on gathering that info. Ugh.

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I haven't actually started the application process yet (taking the June LSAT), but I'm assuming I'll be asked to include a resume or employer history when applying.

If so, my question is do I need to put every job on it? I graduated last December 2006 and right now 2 respected internships top my list of employers. I'll probably just wait tables or do a little office help until I start law school so would I have to include a restaurant as most recent and bump the other places down or should I just leave those off the list?

Or do applications never even ask about employment????

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks! 

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Ok - Thank for the replies.

I won't count on scoring higher but at least there's a teeny bit of hope.

Now I'm trying to work on just how many practice tests I need to take by June. Although I don't post much on here, I get addicted to lurking and it sucks me in.

But - - I have a weakness in that I search out too many opinions / comparisons and then I just get stressed more. I thought I was on track until I notice posters on here mention they've been studying for a year+ or have taken 50 practice tests.

Yikes! I guess just maximize the remaining time and hope for the best???

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If so, how many points higher? And how many practice tests did you take?

Just wondering if the chances are something like 1 in 150 or 1 in 1,500 . . .

Thanks!

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Personal Statement / Subject of personal statement
« on: April 21, 2007, 10:42:51 AM »
I know being unique is key but I was wondering what most people focused their personal statement on and what seems to be most successful. I've been brainstorming ideas but am having trouble deciding which would have the most pull. It seems like admins would be tired of reading the good old "I struggled at this time but overcame"

- I've always known I wanted to do law since...
- What made me choose law
- a health issue that could / has caused problems during undergrad
- What I plan to do with my law degree


Any that have seemed to be more successful or appealing in the past?  ???

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to check my undergrad's offices and if I can't find it there, then I'll let it go.  ;)

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Does anyone know if there are listings of the school's represented?

Basically I'm trying to find out approx. how many people from my undergrad school have gotten into UM law school. It's one of those things where I know it's had to have happened (it's not a bad undergrad school) but I like to see for myself. I've seen the listings on certain school's sites that say they've got students from 48 states, 192 schools, 17 countries, etc. but I was hoping for more specific.

And specifically, UM.

I'm thinking I'm out of luck but thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks!

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This was on the Yahoo homepage:


Survey Reveals Most Satisfying Jobs
Firefighters, the clergy and others with professional jobs that involve helping or serving people are more satisfied with their work and overall are happier than those in other professions, according to results from a national survey.

“The most satisfying jobs are mostly professions, especially those involving caring for, teaching and protecting others and creative pursuits,” said Tom Smith, director of the General Social Survey (GSS) at the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago.

The 2006 General Social Survey is based on interviews with randomly selected people who collectively represent a cross section of Americans. In the current study, interviewers asked more than 27,000 people questions about job satisfaction and general happiness. Individuals' level of contentment affects their overall sense of happiness, Smith said.

“Work occupies a large part of each worker’s day, is one’s main source of social standing, helps to define who a person is and affects one’s health both physically and mentally,” Smith states in a published report on the study. “Because of work’s central role in many people’s lives, satisfaction with one’s job is an important component in overall well-being.”

Job satisfaction

Across all occupations, on average 47 percent of those surveyed said they were satisfied with their jobs and 33 percent reported being very happy.

Here are the Top 10 most gratifying jobs and the percentage of subjects who said they were very satisfied with the job:

Clergy—87 percent percent Firefighters—80 percent percent Physical therapists—78 percent percent Authors—74 percent Special education teachers—70 percent Teachers—69 percent Education administrators—68 percent Painters and sculptors—67 percent Psychologists—67 percent Security and financial services salespersons—65 percent Operating engineers—64 percent Office supervisors—61 percent

A few common jobs in which about 50 percent of participants reported high satisfaction included: police and detectives, registered nurses, accountants, and editors and reporters.

The perceived prestige surrounding an occupation also had an effect on job satisfaction and general happiness. Not all jobs linked with prestige topped these charts, however, including doctors and lawyers. Smith attributes this to the high degree of responsibility and stress associated with such jobs.

“The least satisfying dozen jobs are mostly low-skill, manual and service occupations, especially involving customer service and food/beverage preparation and serving,” Smith said.

Here are the 10 least gratifying jobs, where few participants reported being very satisfied:

Laborers, except construction—21 percent Apparel clothing salespersons—24 percent   Handpackers and packagers—24 percent Food preparers—24 percent Roofers—25 percent Cashiers—25 percent Furniture and home-furnishing salespersons—25 percent Bartenders—26 percent Freight, stock and material handlers—26 percent Waiters and servers—27 percent

Happiness scores

Three occupations—clergy, firefighters and special education teachers—topped both the job-satisfaction and overall happiness lists. Roofers made it on the bottom of both charts, with just 14 percent of roofers surveyed reporting they were very happy.

People who scored high on the happiness scale had the following jobs:

Clergy Firefighters Transportation ticket and reservation agents Housekeepers and butlers Hardware/building supplies salespersons Architects Mechanics and repairers Special education teachers Actors and directors Science technicians

Jobs that plummeted to the bottom of the happiness chart along with the roofers included garage and service station attendants and molding and casting machine operators.

Smith said the results could be useful for job-seekers as “psychological reward” is another factor, in addition to salary and employment security, that can be considered when choosing a profession.

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