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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: BC vs. UNC vs. UW
« on: May 26, 2007, 05:06:30 PM »
I was actually deciding between UWash and BC, down to the day the 2nd deposit was due.   I really liked both schools and had a real hard time choosing between the two.  I really think you can't go wrong at either school, but I am real glad that I ended up with BC.

UW is great.  The building is gorgeous, I love its location in the middle of the UG campus (which is real pretty), the atmosphere is real laid back, it dominates the legal market in the area and Seattle is a cool city.   Even with all those strengths, I still think BC is even better.  The atmosphere at BC is wonderful (super friendly, collegial), the profs are great, and Boston is an awesome city.   I think the biggest strength of BC over UW is the job prospects.   UW does great in PNW since it is the best school in the area.   However, there are not a ton of opportunities up there.  Take a look at the Vault 100.   Nearly every firm is based out of (or has a branch office in) NY, Boston or DC.   These 3 cities are VERY accessible for a BC graduate.  The amount of top firms that are based out of (or have an office in) the PNW is very limited.   Who knows what you will end up ding out of law school, but for communication/media law, you probably want to be in NY or DC after law school (or LA, but that is another issue).   I spoke to many lawyers all over the country, and all seemed to think that BC had a much better name out on the west coast then UW has out on the East coast.   The portability of a BC degree into the best markets was a real selling point for me.   

I can't say much about UNC since I didn't even consider it.  I did not want to live in that area of the country.  Think about where you would like to be before making your decision.   Also, while the winters can be harsh in Boston, the constant rainy skies in Seattle can be quite depressing (especially while in law school).   Let me know if you have any specific questions regarding UW or BC, I did a ton of research into each (and go to BC now and have visited UW).

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: BC with no money???
« on: May 20, 2007, 04:35:54 PM »
BC focuses more on need based scholarships than merit based.   Since you are coming off the waitlist, and the merit based ones are limited, I would not count on a merit based one.   However, you may be eligible for need based scholarships.   There are always outside scholarships you can apply for too.

One question is what area of law are you interested in going into.  If you want to do Public Interest, then having big debt can be a problem and thus it might not be the best idea to go to BC with no aid.  If you want to go the firm route, then it is not a problem.   It is worth it to go to a better school (even if it'll cost more) as you will have a better chance at a higher paying job.  Paying off your loans won't be much of a problem if you are making $160K/yr straight out of school.   

I am a little surprised with where you did/didn't get in.  You have very good numbers.   So I don't think your numbers were really the problem.   A 167 is a very good LSAT, so I don't know if that is the area that really needs to be improved.   Did you make sure you had really strong references and did you make sure to your app/essay were perfect?   I'm not trying to sound condescending, but I am wondering if there is some part of your app that you might have not focused on enough, and that is what should really be fixed and not your LSAT or anything.   I think the main issue is that you applied to a ton of reach schools (T14s) and a fair number of safeties (that gave you scholarships, which is great), but limited the number in the 20's-30's range, which is the range you should really be focusing on since they are the best schools you have a good chance at.  not that you can't get into the schools in the teens, but if you want to have a steady list of really good schools to choose from, then I think you need to add more schools in the 20's-30's range.

Now, all that said, i really think you should come to BC!  Applying to law school sucks, and why go through the whole process again when you are in at a great school!  I am having a wonderful experience here.  I can't say enough about how happy I am to have picked it. And despite what lonewolf said, it is not just a Boston school.  We have a ton of grads go to NY, DC, as well as many that go to Cali, Chicago, Philly, and all over the country.  If you have any more specific questions about BC, feel free to PM me.  Good luck with your decision.   

All that was already said on here was actually really great advice, especially vercingetorix.   I would just like to throw in my vote for Wisconsin.   I went to UW undergrad, and Madison is an amazing place.  it is a great experience, and think that you will enjoy your time there the most.  I really liked Iowa too when i visited and was considering it (wanted to leave Madison loving it, not sick of it).   But, if had to choose between the two for someone who has never been to either, madison would win hands down.  I wrote a general review of UW and madison on here last year.  take a look if you are interested:,53136.0.html

How set are you on NYC?   Chicago is a great city with a big legal market too, and both Iowa and Wisconsin place well there.   I think you have to think about what happens if you do not do well (say place on bottom of the might seem far fetched to you now, but don't forget you are surrounded by extremely intelligent people at law school, everyone is used to being the best).   If you do poorly at Wisc or Iowa, your options will be much greater than at miami.   Hence, while being in the top 10% at any of those schools prob won't make a difference in terms of placement, being in the bottom half will.   On that same note, it would be much better to be stuck in Wisconsin (with madison and Milwaukee) than in iowa if you do not do well.

Anyway, best of luck in your decision.  Let me know if you have any questions about Madison (or Iowa, as I did visit a few times)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Law School and Pets...?
« on: May 12, 2007, 06:05:45 PM »
I am a current 1L and I brought my dog to school.  He was a full grown adult when I brought him and is one of the easiest, most well behaved dogs you'll ever meet.   Nevertheless, it was still hard to have him 1L year.  I think next year it'll be fine, but it was tough this year.   First off, you have to get up 30 minutes earlier every morning (which when you are up late studying, is a precious 30 minutes).  The toughest part though is having to come home and walk him in the evening.   There are many nights where you get bogged down with work and just want to stay at school and do the readings or go with your friends to get dinner straight from school before hitting the books back at the library.   This was never possible for me as I always had to go home 1st and then come straight back to school.   During finals, it becomes really tough as I literally have about 2 hours of non-studying time a day, and 1/2 of it is spent walking my dog (when i would rather be vegging out). 

On the plus side, it is absolutely great to have a furry friend waiting for you when you get home for a rough day.   He always brings a smile to my face when i get home and giving him walks is a relaxing and refreshing break.   He has certainly cheered me up in rough times.

So, I guess I would just echo what everyone else has said.  Do not get a puppy during your 1st year (definitely not).   I would recommend waiting to get any dog until your 2nd year, but if you really want one for your 1st year, go with a trained adult dog (mine was an adult I got from the shelter, and I could not have asked for a better dog).   Good luck!

One of our well-known biggest strengths is how collegial an environment we have

Next person who says this gets beat up.  Everyone is convinced that their school is congenial.  Everyone.  Ooh look, we have free beer on Thursdays, yeah, well we go bowling on Wednesdays, oh yeah, well blah f-ing blah.  Seriously, enough.  Schools are not homogenous in this sense nor can an understanding of congeniality be constructed without putting a rabbit in the hat (I swear to God UVA students think it means softball).  If the biggest strenght of your school is that you can convince yourself that everyone around you is a beautiful unique snowflake, get a goddamn faculty.

I'm not in a congenial mood.  It's not one of my strenghts.

First off, I said one of our biggest strengths, not the biggest strength.  Second, it is not just my opinion, but as I said, is published in Princeton Review (so I would considered that "well known"). Third, I don't see what having a friendly environment has anything to do with recognizing people as unique snowflakes?!  Fourth, our faculty is awesome, and is another one of our strengths, and fifth, you are a feminine hygiene product bag.  ;)  (I am in the middle of finals, not in the mood)

BC is extremely cutthroat. It's a good school, but it has tons of gunners. BU has a more collegial atmosphere, despite it's more urban location.

LOL, what a joke.  I hope you were kidding.  I don't know where you get your info from but BC is not in any way cut throat, in fact we are known as the "Disney Land of law schools" by Princeton Review!  One of our well-known biggest strengths is how collegial an environment we, some of the misinformation on this site.

I can't speak for BU, but I have heard mixed things about how competitive/collegial they are.  I would try to get an opinion from a current student, as FactChecker noted.

Thank you for the link... So BU is a top 20 BigLaw employer!

They certainly are, but it is not really a fair stat comparison.  There just aren't that many BIGLAW firms in the PNW.   BU has NYC, Boston and DC in their backyard, which are 3 major markets that probably contain most of the 50 largest firms.   Not saying that this is something that you shouldn't consider (if you want the biggest firms in the country, it is clear that BU would trump UWash), but that doesn't mean that BU does better in its locale then UW does in its respective location, just that each location is made up of different types of employers. 

This is something that help make the decision easier for me (I was down to U Wash and BC) and I felt that the options of 3 large markets containing the biggest and most prestigious firms was a draw.   (which BTW, BC did equally well in a very similar study of the 250 largest firms....   There will be more options form BU then UW, but if you really like the PNW, then UW is the best place to go and I am sure will be an amazing experience.  but as I said earlier, if Boston is where you want to be, it should be BU, no question. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: BC vs. Loyola Chicago ($$)
« on: April 25, 2007, 12:01:09 PM »
Congrats ChiSox!   I think you made the right choice.  Look forward to seeing you in the Fall.  :)

(Also, nice post Justalawstudent!)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rankings by year??
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:34:32 AM »
Here are all the USNEWS rankings ever, put into charts and spreadsheets

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GW or Boston or Cardozo ($$)
« on: April 22, 2007, 06:26:58 PM »
As Bouzie said, you need to clarify.   Did you mean BU?  People seemed to assume mthat, but you might have really meant BC.  Could you clarify?

Whichever school you meant, if you have such a strong preference for NY, then Cardozo with such a large scholarship might not be a bad option.   I would go with that or whichever Boston school you are talking about.  The Boston schools have great in roads with NYC, so I would not worry about that, but money might be a concern for you.   I don't see a reason to go to GW out of those schools if your goal is NY.   I am sure GW does fine in NY, but I think you would be better served going to a Boston school or Cardozo, as I feel like the focus at GW is about placing people in DC (since most students there probably want to be in DC).  Either way, all great options...can't go wrong.

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