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« on: October 04, 2010, 11:23:40 AM »
I would gather a top law school could mean regional.Exactly.
As I understand it, Top Law School refers to any well regarded school (i.e. T1). However National Law Schools are those whose brand extends beyond the region. For example, Washington & Lee is a fairly well ranked law school, but hardly anyone outside the greater Lexington, VA region has heard of it. It would, imo, be a Top Law School but not a National Law School.
National Law Schools would include H/Y/S, Columbia, NYU, Michigan, Chicago, Georgetown, UCLA, Penn, Northwestern, etc. Some might consider IU-Bloomington to be more of a National Law School than NYU because most IU grads do NOT ultimately practice in Bloomington whereas many (a majority of?) NYU Law grads stay in NYC. Make sense?
I would consider all national law schools to be top law schools but not all top law schools to be national law schools. However, I think that depends on how strict the definition of "top" is. I don't believe Ave Maria would be considered a national law school because it's not highly regarded. Notre Dame would be, but because of its strong brand, not because it's a Catholic school. HBCU... not sure. Howard has a good brand, and firms like to boast diversity, but I haven't really looked into it b/c I'm white.
...k, just checked website of the BigLaw firm I used to work for. There are a handful of Howard alumni working as attorneys, at least half of whom summer'ed there. All but one are in the DC office, though, so it's hard to say how much is regional. Still, Howard fares better than other T3 schools at my old firm. For example, the only NYC law schools they recruit from are NYU, Columbia and Fordham (all T1). They used to recruit from Cardozo (ranked around 50th) but not so much now.
Which other HBCU have law schools?
« on: October 03, 2010, 08:36:32 AM »
A couple nitpicking thoughts...
Private schools have a big advantage over public schools, generally speaking. Of course in the flagship state is usually considered "great" by people in that state, but you leave the state and your school is only known if they're good at football or basketball, and even then they're only known for football or basketball. Interestingly, there seem to be a lot of schools which have "good" (according to US News anyway) law schools that don't have good undergrad programs -- Fordham, GW, American, GMU, Minnesota, Alabama -- I would guess these schools are not highly regarded according to lay perception (though GW may be an exception). However, there aren't as many schools that have very highly regarded undergrad programs with inferior law schools -- all I can think of is Wake Forest (I know it's undergrad is around #25 and law is around #40) so might be hard to make any conclusions about these schools.Like GW, I think Fordham could also be an exception, at least regionally. It has a rich history and relatively good brand despite its weaker undergrad (but even that is respected... 3rd best undergrad in NYC after Columbia and NYU, right?). However, I would guess most lay NYers would guess the law school is in the Bronx instead of down at Lincoln Center.
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1. harvardI think your logic makes sense. I'm curious why you put Penn/Penn State, though. I mean, the former is an Ivy with a Top 5 b-school. Those in business make a HUGE distinction between Penn and Penn State. I imagine most other college educated types at least know the difference.
Hiring an illegal immigrant is as illegal in Ca as it is in Iowa.It shouldn't matter if it's more accepted in Ca-it's still illegal. It's also wrong to take advantage of hiring an illegal immigrant.As far as paying her $23 /hr I'm sure the maid was doing more than cleaning her house. She was probably the nanny,cook, gardner and everything else.I don't know if it's particularly easy to determine if an immigrant came here legally or illegally if said immigrant has a 1099 on file with the agency from which she was hired. I mean, if Ms. Whitman looked into it, sure, I'm sure she could have found the paper trail to the truth, but what would prompt her to do so?
There are plenty of illegal immigrants who are Hispanic in California, but there are also plenty of legal immigrants who are Hispanic in California. To inquire about an employee's immigration/citizenship status beyond the typical 1099 simply because of his/her ethnicity would be an act of prejudice, no?
A thought I just had aqs I stared at the blank screen. Th essay is used to test "writing, reasoning, and editing" skills. So how about a 250 word essay on why I will be successful at YAle backed up by academic evidence?That could work, but I think the challenge could be refraining from being cliche. I'm not applying to Yale; is this essay your personal statement or in addition to it?
« on: October 01, 2010, 09:15:35 AM »
I'd recommend taking an untimed practice test first, just to determine where your strengths and weaknesses are and go from there. After two weeks, take a timed practice test to see how you respond to those constraints and find any new weaknesses.
I found that a lot of the theory behind logical reasoning also applies to the logic games and vice versa, so I found it very beneficial to concentrate on training myself to think logically. The games came easily first for me, and the LR followed. Other people will have different strengths, so I think it's best to do a diagnostic.
I took the February 2010 LSAT while working full time. I was also in school part time last fall (which is why I didn't opt for the December 2009 exam!), so I definitely understand the time crunch. I think you have a good study schedule laid out for yourself. Spend the week learning the test, and spend the weekends taking a practice and going over the answers. Slow and steady wins the race.
Studying for the LSAT / Re: can I write something on the test book when I take the actual test especially« on: October 01, 2010, 09:05:34 AM »
On the blank parts of the page in that section? Of course. It's part of the reason I was glad the LSAT isn't on a computer like the GRE and GMAT.
Bigs,Have fun! I went last year. The biggest lines are for schools on the coasts. If you have any schools in flyover states you want to check out (other than Chicago and Northwestern), you shouldn't have a problem. I have to say, though, I was very impressed with NYU at the Forum last year. They had a ton of students, but also 3 or 4 representatives whereas most had only 1 or 2, even from the other NYC schools. When I got to the front of the line, I thought I would be rushed along, but the admissions counselor actually engaged me in conversation, seemed interested, knew the firm I was working at (a highly ranked V50 firm, yet there were still reps at the forum who gave me a blank stare when I told them), and really sold the school even though I know NYU isn't hurting for applicants.
I was unimpressed with IU. An Indiana native, I stopped by along with a friend of a friend who went to IU Kelley for undergrad. The entire sales pitch was "you can go here or go somewhere else and pay a lot more". Uh, thanks. There was no one else waiting, and we were two who might actually apply. I've since visited the campus and loved it, and I think its location in a small town forces it to have greater reach in terms of OCR compared to slightly lower ranked OSU, located in a bigger city where many graduates remain. However, many at the NYC Forum won't ever visit Bloomington before applying.
Anyway, thanks for sharing the responses from various schools! I'm not surprised at the mixed reaction, but it's nice to know what the party line is at specific schools.
« on: September 26, 2010, 10:59:26 AM »
Megan,Ah, I see what you're saying. The bulk of my experience has been at a big firm supporting the corporate transactional practice, so I was curious why that might be inadequate.
I agree a broad exposure is ideal, but I'm not sure the size of the firm really matters so much as the structure. My first role at the big firm exposed me to tax, restructuring and IP litigation in addition to transactional law, while I imagine many small firms are highly specialized and thereby offer a very limited scope.
Regardless, congrats on the job, megee333 (though I bet that's quite a paycut for you! ); I hope it helps you determine which direction you'd like to go.