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Law School Applications / Re: Chances at This List of Schools
« on: December 23, 2010, 09:57:42 AM »
Agree with previous.  Apply soon, though, as many of those schools have already sent decisions.

Good luck!  We may be classmates. :)

(Also, it may be worth it to apply to peer schools that are slightly less competitive like Iowa and IU-Bloomington to gain leverage for aid).

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 23, 2010, 09:40:36 AM »
Did someone here actually say "but my daddy...." Holy F'n hell. Look littlegirl stop watching daddy and ask him not what he did today but what he did in (real hard here) LAWSCHOOL! Then come back and post what his outdated opinions on it were.

You fetus's remind me of all the idiot civilians when I got back to the states, "you couldnt of been in the service, my grandad was in the service and he told me people had to show respect and your a male private part....." Welcome back to reality people. Just because a bunch of undergrads tell eachother that day is night (and say "but my daddy") dosn't make it so. 

"but my daddy......." :'(
You misunderstood.  To be fair, I did write  a grammatically confusing sentence.  (See how much grammar matters?)

My father is an attorney.  This means I grew up constantly discussing the law.  I also read the [state] Code when I was curious about what the law actually was.  It's not about "what my daddy told me" but rather the environment in which I was raised.

After college, I worked in BigLaw for 3 years.  I have been mentored by top attorneys and have assisted on major transactions.  I've drafted correspondence to top executives at Fortune 500 companies.  Maybe I don't know as much about law school as you do, but I think I know a little bit about the actual practice of law.


Apologies, marcus, for derailing your helpful and interesting blog-like application thread.

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 22, 2010, 10:43:28 PM »
Wow, fetus, me 2L, me know how lawschool work.

You can watch legally blonde all you want, but reality is not a tv show nor is it whatever myth they feed you in prelaw. Logic matters(never contested that but you are too illogical to realise that) I see fetus's like you each term walk in the door and they either get the realitybitchslap and move on, or stay selfrightously ignorant to reality and fail out with a grammaticly perfect appeal letter that ends up denied.

"but my friends told me....... :'("

Proper English and logic are don't matter in law school?

Again, no wonder you are so negative. English and logic are not necessary to apply law to fact.  I'll keep that in mind if I decide I want to fail at law school.
omg, like, you mean law school isn't totally like Legally Blonde?  :o

I'd assume you struck out at OCI (despite your sterling personality  ;)), but you're clearly a troll.  The practice of law requires proficiency in the written word.  How do I know this?  I'm the daughter of an attorney who also spent 3 years working at a BigLaw firm.  A seemingly simple word change can have a profound impact on a transaction. 

Also, http://www.apostropheabuse.com/.

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: December 22, 2010, 05:57:41 PM »
Please enlighten what advice (and for future reference, "probably" is the correct spelling, not probally) I have given that is unwarranted.  Saying that school 9 is no different from 90?  Wait, that was not me.  Someone with but vacuous space between the ears said that.  My lack of proper grammar?  Wait, that is not me either.

All of my advice (advise is a verb, you really cannot give it.  Have you ever tried giving run or walk.  It is not easy, let me tell you) has been from the countless of hours of research, the plethora of lawyers and admissions officers I have talked to, as well as a few judges.  So I am confident about my advice. 

The fact you are negative, misconstrue other's statements and assume things (Nealric was not a Harvard or Yale student, but you assumed he was when he defended him) and the fact you bring up irrelvant points that are outside the scope of the topic only demonstartes you lack of reasoning ability.  Hence, your unemployment or class rank is due to your own inadequacy at either research prior to law school or simply work ethic.

::begins slow clap::



Anyway, good luck on the Georgetown essay!  It should be a good winter project. :)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: OSU v. UIUC v. Fordham
« on: December 21, 2010, 07:42:28 AM »
Congrats on the acceptances.  I am curious to know if your firm would hire you no matter where you went to school.  Depending on what the answer is, things could change.
Thanks!  I guess that's the million dollar question. :)  I'm confident most transactional attorneys in the NY office know my name/face, and I have a handful of strong contacts there.  The current head of the recruiting committee in NY is also good friends with my former boss.
My contacts in Chicago are not as strong/plentiful... I did work closely with one partner there, and he has offered to help with the disclaimer that the recruiting committee has never asked for his help (he said this in a self-deprecating, joking way  ;)).  A couple of the really big deal partners in Chicago also knew who I was and passed on compliments to my old boss, but I don't think they'd go out of their way to help me get a job.

My first boss there (when I was a secretary) was on the recruiting committee, so I know they're very grade focused.  I think I'd have a shot if I did well at OSU, but nothing is guaranteed.  The youngest OSU alumnus currently employed there is c/o 2008, so I'm worried it's fallen off their "acceptable schools" list.

Hmm.  Anything else I should be considering?

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Where should I go next fall? / OSU v. UIUC v. Fordham
« on: December 20, 2010, 07:29:34 PM »
It's still early in my application cycle, and I know financial aid packages could change things, but I'm curious to get your opinions on what I should do.

Education: BA with an individualized major; AAS in Fashion Merchandising

Work Experience: 1 year as a legal secretary at a V50 in NY; 1 year as a secretary (who sometimes did analyst work) for the M&A group of a major bank in NY; 2 years in a research role at the same V50 in NY; 6 months+ (currently employed) as an analyst for a Fortune 500 retailer in the Midwest

Immediate goal post-law school: return to V50's Chicago office as an associate in corporate transactional (or possibly restructuring or IP transactional)
Long-term thoughts: Move into a recruiting or client development role at the firm; go in-house somewhere; lateral to a specialized firm;  lateral to an entertainment firm (I know that's extremely difficult); or partner-track

OSU
Pros:
*My husband's job is here (he's a 1st year resident)
*Even if no aid is offered, in-state tuition is super cheap
*I enjoyed the class I sat in on
*Hang On Sloopy is a really catchy tune
Cons:
*I don't want to stay in Ohio long-term
*There is only one firm whose Chicago office was represented at OCI this year (and it's not my old firm)

UIUC
Pros:
*Strong brand
*Places well in Chicago
*Scholarship $ makes up for OOS tuition
*Less than 2 hours from my hometown
*COL in UC is really low
Cons:
*My old firm wasn't represented at OCI
*Not sure about living in a college town

Fordham
Pros:
*Is the only school to which I've been accepted so far where my old firm participated in OCI this year.
*I have a really strong support system in NYC
*I love NY
*Decent brand despite its ranking
Cons:
*Expensive... really expensive
*They didn't allow me to sit in on a class when I visited as a perspective student
*It's neither NYU nor CLS


Sorry for the novel; thanks for your thoughts!

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: Wrong Cumulative GPA on LSAC
« on: December 06, 2010, 05:27:59 PM »
They'll receive your actual transcript as well.

I also listed my transcript GPA on my resume.  LSAC only dropped it by .012, but of course my transcript GPA is a 3.X0 so the LSAC GPA looks that much lower.

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Law School Applications / Re: Completely Intimidated to Apply
« on: December 06, 2010, 01:14:57 PM »
The posters above have both given you a lot of good information.

One thing you should do, though, is figure out what your LSAC GPA is.  I'm guessing since you haven't yet taken the LSAT, you haven't paid for the Credential Assembly service through LSAC either.  In order to make everything easier for the law schools, the LSAC standardizes undergraduate GPAs.  They will look at all grades received from colleges through the completion of your bachelor's degree (so if you took college courses in high school, those count, but if, like me, you got an associate's degree after your bachelor's, those won't count).  If you re-took a class and both grades appear on your transcript, they will count both grades.

With that in mind, here's a calculator you can use to determine your LSAC GPA:
http://www.lawpad.com/gpa_calculator/

Also, is the 2.9 only from your senior year and not your cumulative?  Because schools care far more about the cumulative.  You should still write a short addendum explaining the downward trend (heavy workload), but with a soft like PCV and a strong LSAT score, many will be able to overlook it.

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Law School Applications / Re: 2010-2011 Application Cycle
« on: November 12, 2010, 07:39:15 AM »
Morten,

Coming from a rather poor family, Big Law is my goal.  I will never struggle as my parents have to put food on the table. I am unafraid of work, so Big Law sounds wonderful to me. It will help me allow them to be more comfortable as they age.   

Am I right in my reserach that any T14 will allow you the potential to be hired by a Big Law firm (such as Sidley Austin)?  But the top firms tend to only hire from the top 5 or 6 schools (Cravath)?
I worked for a V10 that doesn't just recruit from all of the T14 but also select schools in the T25... plus a handful from certain T40s (in the past, wouldn't count on it now).
The firm I worked for is VERY grade conscious, though, so you would need to do well wherever you go, whether it's Michigan or Fordham.

I also have a friend (with whom I've lost touch in recent years) who was in the honors program at Chicago-Kent who got an offer from Sidley.  Obviously she was a superstar from her program, though.

Georgetown will definitely open doors for you, though, both BigLaw and government.

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Pre-Law in high school / Re: Preparing for Intellectual Property [IP] Law?
« on: November 08, 2010, 04:25:05 PM »
If you want to get into patent law, I believe an engineering, physics, or natural science degree is required.  Your GPA will be very important.  So pick one of the above majors that you will do best in.
Exactly.  Top IP attorneys also often have graduate degrees in hard sciences.  I think it might be better to ask yourself what you're interested in in addition to law.  If you love both science and law, go the IP route; if you like finance/econ, go the traditional corporate route; etc.

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