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1. Because it wasn't my goal.
2. It's a good regional school but only because UM grads traditionally leave the state, and not many graduates come to MI. I would be an exception.
3. Wayne and UDM are close for Detroit's "law market feeder school" award. Look up Dykema & Gossett and check where their attorneys went to school. MSU usually places in Grand Rapids, and Lansing; Cooley isn't worth mentioning. ;D
4. I stand by my suggestion as UDM being a good school for MI, however I'm not naive I know other schools trump it.

Why are you so bitter towards the school?

--I'm just curious you might know something about their law school I don't; most of my family went to undergrad and other gradute school programs there.

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I don't see anything wrong with Detroit. I grew up in the nicer suburbs adjacent to Det. but I've also lived in Gainesville, FL and vacationed extensively in Costa Mesa, CA. You DON'T have to live IN Detroit, I'd recommend Troy, Grosse Point, or Bloomfield Hills (all of which are rated some of the most affluent areas in the U.S). If you were concerned about the economy... It's getting better from what I've heard from friends and family. The legal market isn't falling apart completely and I'd anticipate a full rebound by the time his schooling would be over. As for UDM, I'm not saying its an amazing school - but it's a viable option if he doesn't re-take the LSAT. From what I've heard the reputation has been strong, but I could be ill informed... I'm not sure if you're from MI, most likely yes, but what have you heard Ninja1?

Are you really going to Harvard?

Hopefully. I'm still young and I don't intend to apply until next year probably. However, I don't like people knocking a school my sister, grandpa, uncles, and father all attended. UDM isn't that bad; my sister went to undergrad/dental school there and is doing great. The law school isn't top ranked (or even close for that matter), but for this OP it should be an option. Also, just because I strive to go to Harvard and have good numbers - doesn't mean I'm an elitist and look down upon a school that has been good to my family.

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Correlation?? lol, just kidding.If I were you -- being from the Detroit area myself, would apply to UDM.
Hell they might even offer you a partial scholarship because your GPA is above their 75th percentile. UDM has also taken a big leap in recognition, and has always been good for placement in Detroit (a secondary market). UDM's reputation also is solid within the region. Wayne Law will place above you, but just work hard in class; the top law students from UDM are equal to the top law students at Wayne. I'm applying to UM next cycle too, and unlike 90% of their grads I'll stay in MI. That is however contingent if I get into Harvard or not.
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But it's also important to remember that detroit is detroit.
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I don't see anything wrong with Detroit. I grew up in the nicer suburbs adjacent to Det. but I've also lived in Gainesville, FL and vacationed extensively in Costa Mesa, CA. You DON'T have to live IN Detroit, I'd recommend Troy, Grosse Point, or Bloomfield Hills (all of which are rated some of the most affluent areas in the U.S). If you were concerned about the economy... It's getting better from what I've heard from friends and family. The legal market isn't falling apart completely and I'd anticipate a full rebound by the time his schooling would be over. As for UDM, I'm not saying its an amazing school - but it's a viable option if he doesn't re-take the LSAT. From what I've heard the reputation has been strong, but I could be ill informed... I'm not sure if you're from MI, most likely yes, but what have you heard Ninja1?

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I scored a 149 for the first time on the June 2009 LSAT.  Becauze I am pretty disappointed with my score, I am planning to take it again. 

My undergraduate GPA is 3.5 cumulative.  I have a degree in Psychology, with a minor in English and concentrations in Chemistry and Biology. 

I have been active in my fraternity with numerous positions held over the last four years on our Executive Council, and I have also served as a member of the Inter-fraternal Council.  Furthermore, I was an Orientation Student Leader and a Student Leader Liason.  I also served as a Supreme Court Justice for SGA and am a member of Omicron Delta Kappa Honor Society.  I have been involved with grassroots campaigning with the Louisiana Republican Party.  I am hoping that my extracurricular involvement will be of benefit in the application process. 

I am pursuing a Master's degree in English next year, and hoping to enter law school in the Fall of 2010.  Any advice and information would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your time and consideration of this matter. 

The main schools to which I am applying are LSU, Tulane, Loyola New Orleans, Ole Miss, and SMU. 

Correlation?? lol, just kidding.If I were you -- being from the Detroit area myself, would apply to UDM.
Hell they might even offer you a partial scholarship because your GPA is above their 75th percentile. UDM has also taken a big leap in recognition, and has always been good for placement in Detroit (a secondary market). UDM's reputation also is solid within the region. Wayne Law will place above you, but just work hard in class; the top law students from UDM are equal to the top law students at Wayne. I'm applying to UM next cycle too, and unlike 90% of their grads I'll stay in MI. That is however contingent if I get into Harvard or not.

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Affirmative Action / Re: Howard University: lol funny idea
« on: September 08, 2009, 08:13:21 PM »
I figured they'd have other minorities such as the races you've listed. However, I didn't expect they had Whites; I believed a white person may feel overwhelmed by black culture. Often as black students who are questioned in elementary schools by white students on an array of subjects (Can I touch your hair?). Thank you for the insight.

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Affirmative Action / Howard University: lol funny idea
« on: September 08, 2009, 01:12:28 AM »
I'm not here to cause a big fuss, or start a riot. I was reading a post from a while back of a black law student hopeful. The post was about his numbers, and his quest to get into Howard Law. I thought to myself, Howard practically has no AA! Most, if not all of the applications come from minorities. Now, I haven't looked into this, but If a white man were to apply with higher numbers - what would happen? Is it an African-American only school? If so, that's bull (however I don't think that is possible). My main question entertains the idea of a white man using reverse AA to get into the school. Lol. He'd probably be the most hated 1L, if this is even possible? Has it been done?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 157/3.7 Chances
« on: July 31, 2009, 03:10:53 AM »
Harvard Law was my goal. I consider going to any T14 a privilege; with that said you should never aim low. I aimed for a Top three because one should strive towards maximum potential. I may, or may not get in. Which ever scenario occurs I'm still pleased I gave it my all, and yes I would like to think hardwork is rewarded. I still, however, stand by my statement about A.A generalizing europeans.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 157/3.7 Chances
« on: July 31, 2009, 12:46:42 AM »
Nice guys finish last. I for one, think I will be a model lawyer.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 157/3.7 Chances
« on: July 31, 2009, 12:20:29 AM »
That URM is such bull. I'm a second generation European (Italian/Ukrainan) - my family has probably been in this country less than most of the African-Americans/Hispanic population. Just because I look purely caucasion it's assumed my life has been easy street. Struggling to get into Harvard with a 175 LSAT & 3.67 UGPA from UofF... Your chance is greater than mine... All I have to say is - WOW!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 3.67, 175 LSAT
« on: July 30, 2009, 09:24:17 PM »
I'm white, I get no URM breaks unfortunately. It's a shame; each set of grandparents immigrated (legally) from Italy/Ukraine. Which means my family has less lineage in this country than most African-Americans. I feel discrimnated against for having a mixed European ancestery - just because I look white doesn't mean my family has had it easier. I hope one day law makers change AA to a level of income measure. Just a thought though; as for your statement about "...Duke, UPenn." You're right, but I was attracted to the prestige of the Harvard name, like many. I will apply to other schools (Cornell,NYU,Duke,UofM) also. The Harvard name presented motivation, and a willingness to succeed to achieve that goal. My story might sound cliche; instead of going through the motions in my life. I realized I had the opportunity to make something of myself now - instead of harboring regret for years to come. I realized the opportunity laid at my feet, and I tried my hardest.

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