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Taft is horrible.  I responded to another one of your posts.  Their instruction is not geared toward you personally.  I only lasted 6 weeks as I found the school to be subpar.  When I would get a 3/4 on a brief,  I would ask where did I go wrong.  I got a canned response not geared toward me but rather a response that could be geared toward anyone.

I would not go to Concord because of cost.  You might want to look at California School of Law or St. Francis School of Law.  Both require online class attendance at least 2 days a week.  St. Francis is new and their instruction seems different than the rest. 

Don't go to Taft.  I tried them.  They were not my first choice, but because they offered federal financial aid, I chose them.  Dont' get me wrong, they have been around a long time but the instruction is terrible.

When I attended a couple of years ago, I had 18 years legal experience under my belt. 

You will brief a lot of cases.  I would get 3/4 on most of them.  That is a 75%.  When I would ask where I went wrong as I felt a 75% was not great, I would get a canned response that was geared toward anyone and not me personally.  I dropped after 6 weeks.

I would look at California School of Law or maybe the new one St. Francis as they require online class attendance 2-3 times a week.  St. Francis has a different method of teaching. 

I am contemplating either one of these schools.  I will take 1 year online and then transfer to Birmingham School of Law in Alabama.  I live in Georgia and this is the only school close by that will accept online credits.  They are a state approved school and not an ABA approved school.  I am almost 46.  A law career is not what I seek but a decent legal education.  I do not think Taft will provide that.

Does it work in the reverse?  For example, I was planning to attend a brick & mortar school in Birmingham, AL.  Classes start September 3 and they meet every Saturday.  I am in Atlanta and the drive is not bad until you cross into Alabama where the speed limit is 50MPH and there are cops everywhere.   I made a trial run to Birmingham and was very disturbed by all that.

Plus, it seems that with family obligations, this year is not a great year to be gone every Saturday.   Next year... as kids are older, it won't matter so much.

So, while I was reading my student handbook, I found something interesting.  BSOL will accept transfer students from ABA approved, non-ABA approved and ONLINE law schools at their discretion.  Since I was already admitted to BSOL, I am sure that if I took my first year classes online and then transfered to BSOL, I would have no problem getting in. 

So the question is... would I still have to sit for baby bar?  I guess if I am not taking my second year online, the the obvious answer would be no.

Any thoughts?

If yo have no plans to leave Alabama, then go to Birmingham School of Law.  They are state approved but have a great reputation in Alabama.  I live in Atlanta and I am going to trek on out to Birmingham once a week to attend class on Saturday.  There is also Miles Law School, but I do not think they are as good.

I can't get into an ABA approved school because I am 45 for one, and the other is my LSAT score was too low.  The school is about $5,000 a year.  No financial aid but they do have a payment plan.  You are also required to take a 3 day (actually 2 day) online course in legal writing.  I have a lot of legal writing experience so I thought the class was a waste of time and money. 

I have no desire to work in a big firm or even practice law.  I want the education and what I do with it from there, who knows.  My son wants to go to Auburn... that will be in 3 years so who knows, I may end up in Alabama anyway.

Distance Education Law Schools / Another new online law school?
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:02:34 PM »
At least I think it is new... I haven't seen it in any previous searches I did for online law schools.  I am going to a brick and mortar, but I was looking at online a couple of years ago.

I made $50k a year as a paralegal doing eminent domain closings for the County.  This job was a cake walk.  I left to do other things.  They hired another attorney to replace me and they paid her $45k a year.  I find that quite amusing.  With my legal background and education, I can get a job anywhere... even in this recession. 

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Concord dropout...
« on: July 21, 2011, 05:15:31 PM »
Hi.  2 years ago... I too was enrolled in an online law school.  I chose Taft because they were the only online law school where you could get federal student loans.  I actually had research all the online schools and they seemed to be the best of the bunch.  Concord seemed too expensive for what you are actually getting.

Needless to say, I lasted 7 weeks at Taft.  I have been in the legal profession for 20 years.  At the time I started Taft, I was half-way finished with my Master's Degree in Law & Policy.   I put that on hold figuring I would just go to law school.  Wrong decision. 

 Law is difficult.  You must learn a new way to think.  Trying to do that online is not easy.  I have no problem briefing cases.  My problem was I would receive a 3 out of 4 on a brief with no feedback.  I mean... that is a 75%.  When I would ask the "professor" where I went wrong, I got a "canned" response.  The response sounded like it had nothing to do with my brief. 

So, I dropped out.  I went and finished my Master's Degree and will now be attending a brick and mortar law school in September.  I live in the Atlanta area and there is a law school in Birmingham, Alabama that has a weekend program.  I will be taking classes in Birmingham every Saturday.  The reason I chose this school (state approved.. not ABA approved) is because my LSAT score was low and they do not use it as a criteria for admission.  I will only be able to take the bar in Alabama, which is okay.  I will be almost 50 when I graduate so where I end up after I'm done doesn't really matter.  And the tuition is affordable so no debt when I'm done.

It will be hard.. no doubt, but I think just being able to sit in a classroom and listen and ask questions will make all the difference in the world. 

I guess I was fortunate.  I have always worked full time.  I finished my bachelors while working a job that was not demanding.  Did a lot of class work while at work.  I finished my Masters Degree while at work.  This was a different employer and while I was hired to work for the Vice President... the doesn't produce a lot of things for me to do.  I was able to do all the research and assignments I needed and no one had a problem.  In fact, if I approached my boss and told him about law school, he would probably tell me to do whatever I needed to do at the office.

I am now going to attend law school but my classes are on Saturday.  I have not told my employer about this.  They knew about the Masters Degree because I was working on it when I started there.  I graduated with that almost a year ago.  I have been with company almost 2 years.

I cannot decide if I should tell them or not.  On the one hand, I do not want them thinking I am going to abandon them but of course an employer is going to think that since I am going to law school, I want to take that career path.  I had been in the legal profession for 20 years but this job is not legal.  More administrative.

I also am an online seller and I could really just do that and make enough money.  Heck, between the online selling and the job, I make close to 6 figures a year.  I just think if I tell them and be honest with them, they will not have a problem if I need to write or research at work.  My boss is out 3 out of 4 weeks.  We are a small office and are even allowed to stream TV and movies to our computers while working. 

So... do I tell them or just let it go and see how things progress in law school?

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Well, I got into law school...
« on: July 12, 2011, 10:28:54 PM »
I do not feel the least bit embarrassed that I am attending a state law school.  There are several in Alabama that are state run and Birmingham seems to have a great reputation in the state.  I am 45.  I will be 50 by the time I graduate.  Why in the world would I need an ABA law degree?  I do not want to be starting out as a first year associate in a firm at my age.  Besides, I have over 20 years experience working as a legal secretary and a paralegal.  I am going to know more about the law and procedures than most of my classmates.  And that is what is going to give me an advantage if I decide to become a practicing attorney.  Even in the worst of recessions, I can get a job at the drop of the hat with my legal background.    With my years of experience and top that with attending law school, I am pretty sure I can get a job in a law firm while in law school.  In my 25+ years of being in the working world, finding a job has been the least of my worries. 

I know there are a lot of law students looking for a job.  The problem is they have high expectations of what they want to be paid and someone told them along the way that the expensive law degree they received is going to guarantee them a great job.  Heck, even getting a college degree these days is not a guarantee of that. 

I don't listen to anyone who is negative.  Life is what you make of it and in the end... it isn't going to matter where I attend law school.  All that matters is that I did.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Well, I got into law school...
« on: July 05, 2011, 10:10:49 PM »
Hi Calgal27 - I will be attending Birmingham School of Law on the weekends as well commuting in from another state.  I'm 40 yrs old with a very successful career that pays very well.  I just wanted to point out that Georgia has a waiver process for Non ABA graduates, the current waiver process was implemented in Feb. 2008.   Since, then there has been a Birmingham School of Law graduate and a Concord Law School graduate.  The waiver process consist of about 6 steps that has to be followed exactly as explained but obtainable.  The good thing about attending Birmingham School of Law is that you wont have any law school loans to pay back once you finish because you pay as you go.  Also, the majority of BSOL students work full-time jobs and are already established in the current careers.

Hi!  Where are you commuting from?  Since I am 45 (50 by the time I graduate), the last thing I want is a law career.  I honestly would love to get a law degree, sit in a law firm and just do research and write brief, memos and other things.    My kids are 15 and 12.  My son wants to go to Auburn University ( that would be in 3 years) and my daughter will be off to college not too far after him.  I have no problem if I end up living in Alabama.  But, like you said, there is always the waiver for Georgia and there is always the federal court system.  I cannot believe a Concord graduate actually go through the waiver process.   

Hope to meet you at BSOL!

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