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When you register for the LSAT, do you know right away what room, etc. your test is going to be administered at? I know the general testing locations where the Feb. LSAT is going to be offered but I want to perhaps check out the rooms beforehand to get an idea of the setup and to avoid any problems...Cause I definitely need a good deal of room between myself and others. Also, is changing your test location once you register possible?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Nylon Rope LR question
« on: December 05, 2005, 07:49:35 PM »
There is a question very similar to this on the October 2000 PrepTest. Almost exactly the same except it is a "weaken" question instead of a discrepancy question. To paraphrase, the question asks:

The process of manufacturing nylon realeasees harmful gases to the environment. Processing cotton fiber does not release harmful gases, so if cotton fiber were used to make rope instead of nylon, less environmental damage would be done. then it asked which answer weakens and the answer was...

If cotton fiber was used instead of nylon in producing rope, there would be a resulting increase in the use of nylon for other types of manufactured products.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Target low 170s--should I take a course?
« on: December 01, 2005, 03:51:55 PM »
Thanks to everyone for their advice :)

i was looking it up on the web but i thought maybe someone here could offer some advice. This will be a little TMI but i'm probably going to need painkillers on the test day because of cramps, which will have me in massive pain otherwise.. and i've taken Advil with no problems before, but not in high-stress situations. Do you think something like Advil would have an adverse effect on my concentration or general state? i don't think it causes drowsiness, but i'm just a little worried. i'm thinking of testing it out today but i don't like taking pills (not because i can't, i just hate becoming dependent on such things, tho i am very much in the above situation) especially when clearly not needed physically. Any advice or reassurance would be great. would Tylenol be better as well as being as effective at pain management?

I've never taken Advil but I'm quite sure that Tylenol should do the job and won't adversely affect your concentration. Personally, I'd try my best to stay away from any medications on the day of the test, but if you feel like you may be in a situation where you need to take Advil/Tylenol, be sure to try it out beforehand and see how it affects you. Perhaps, try to simulate test conditions as much as possible--go to a library or public area, get soemone else to time you, etc, etc.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Tips for decreasing time???agh....
« on: December 01, 2005, 03:41:22 PM »
   Any tips out there for decreasing time, or increasing time effectiveness, I've tried all the "transfer you answers in  blah blah blah" to increase work time, but for some reason when it comes to LR I feel like my brain turns to mush when i start to read the question, or I'm so worried i might miss a key point and so i read it super carefully, and Im a fast reader but lately i've been continually finishing with 5 q's remaining, is that normal?? What can i do? I have both Princeton Review and the LSAC tripleprep book, is it to late to by the LR bible, would that even help?
    The weird thing is the games are not a problem for me, i grew up doing them throughtout school, but admittedly i have no common sense, so LR is the death of me :( It seems that my "letter of the day" proves to be quite inneffective as well....i always choose D....what about everyone else?? Thanks for any input ;D

I wish we could trade-off on our LR/logic games abilities. My most difficult section is logic games (have timing issues with them) and I'm pretty good at LR.

When do you plan on taking the test though? I'm guessing definitely (hopefully)  not the one on Saturday. If you're taking the one in Feb, Id say you definitely have time to get the LRB. The only thing is so far in my experience, two or three B&N stores didn't have the LGB and LRB and I had to order it...but that took about a week to get here, so not too bad.

Personally, I've gone through a decent amount of the LGB (60% I'd say) and it really isn't too difficult to go through in a couple of weeks. I'm not sure how the LRB compares.

As for timing yourself--practice, practice, practice under timed conditions. Set yourself benchmarks as well, e.g. be done with 8 questions in 12 minutes, and try to pace yourelf accordingly while practicing.

But it all boils down to how much time you have to study...?

Just for the record...I'm taking the FEB test, not the one on Saturday.

Damn, this is scaring the crap out of me...I better take some '05 tests as well.

Do you think the two LSATs you took from 2005 were tangibly harder or could it have been that you weren't as focused/perhaps a little nervous?

Because if you were scoring on average higher than that, I'd not worry, depending on what your target it. I don't know how urgently you need to take it but it still might be a good idea to wait till feb. if it won't hurt your application process.

Also, were all of the previous LSATs you took actual, previously-administered LSATs?

Studying for the LSAT / Target low 170s--should I take a course?
« on: December 01, 2005, 01:30:28 AM »
Hey everyone...first off I just thought I'd say these boards seems a lot more encouraging and supportive than many others I've read online. For example, on the Princenton Review discussion boards it seems like the answers are always "no chance in hell," "no chance at HYP," "you're screwed," etc...but I digress.

I took two timed practice LSATs before opening a prep book and I got a 159 on both. Then, after studying from the Princeton Review book, I got a 156 on one of the PR's "simulated" LSATs in the back of the book (go figure...i think the test had a lot of ambiguities but whatever). My weakest section by far is Logic Games. Ive been studying the Logic Games Bible and doing some practice. 

Recently, took the arguments and reading comprehension sections from two practice LSATs and did quite well (not strictly timed though). On one of the tests, I got only five questions wrong total on the three sections, and on the other, fifteen wrong...Meaning, figuring in the current avg of 6-7 logic games questions I usually get wrong, I would have scored approximately a 171 and 163, respectively.

Yesterday, I took an entire LSAT without any breaks and got a 165. Timing seemed to be the main issue, as I got 6 wrong on one of the arguments section because I couldn't do 2-3 of the arguments. I also scored lower on Reading Comp. than i would have hoped.

In any case, based on an analysis I feel like I can improve hopefully as I have tons of room for improvement in terms of timing and definitely Logic Games...My questions:

A) Should I study myself (which is what I'm inclined to do...taking tons of practice tests, etc) or take a prep course. I fear that a prep course will inundate me with useless information that will further confuse the progress I've made studying over the past month or so.

B) Do I have a chance to score a 172-173, considering I have nothing else occupying me between now and February?

thanks for bearing with me in what was a very convoluted way of asking a simple question.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Doing MUCH WORSE than anticipated
« on: December 01, 2005, 01:07:00 AM »
Lawgirl, I also plan on taking the February LSAT and hence am in a somewhat similar predicament as you are...but here's how I'm approaching my preparation.

First off, keep a positive attitude. As simple as it sounds, don't let yourself get overwhelmed or discouraged, because that will only work against you. For example, even if you didn't do as well as you would have liked on your first two sections, don't let that get in the way while working on the next two sections. Imagine if you were taking the real thing and you could have aced the last two sections but you were so let down by your poor performance on the first two sections that you screwed up the last two sections as well. Today, I took a practice LSAT and wasn't able to finish all four logic games of the first section. However, I went on to score a 165, which was quite good, since i didn't allow myself to be discouraged.

Also, in the larger scheme of things, you have so much time left...the way I see it, I can score high on the LSAT if I prepare wisely in the next two months. You can do the same, just find ways you can use your mistakes to improve and try to see where you're making errors most often. Also, if you don't see why your answers are wrong, perhaps find a friend who can give you another take on the questions...preferable a friend in law school if you have one. I'd ask you to post them here so we could all work through the questions together, but I just read a post saying not to post copyrighted material on here.

Ok, now away from generalities and onto specifics. I'd say the best thing you can do is to take practice tests under real conditions. I found that in high school this best prepared me for the SAT, as it gives you tons of confidence. Also, it helps you find your strengths, weaknesses, and find patterns in the questions of the LSAT. That means taking all four sections in one sitting, instead of breaking sections up.

What I'd do is space these practice tests intermittently while also going through the LGB and LRB. Perhaps take one real LSAT a week. Also, what I'm planning on doing is practicing individual sections as well as the entire test. So, since logic games are my weakness, perhaps two or three days a week I will work through an entire logic games section. I find that the biggest obstacle is timing, so perhaps start off giving yourself 40 minutes and then cutting down to the 35 minutes. However, DO TIME yourself. I can do logic games if I stare at them for an hour, but doing them under time constraints is what counts.

So, to summarize, I'd say take tons of practice tests, individual sections, and make sure to analyze all tests you take to find areas that need work. and most importantly, make sure you understand why you got questions wrong so as to not make the same mistakes in the future.

Good luck. 

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