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Distance Education Law Schools / July 2013 Bar Exam Results
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:33:18 AM »
Overall Passrates

CA Unaccredited 
Law Office/Judges’ Chambers
Foreign Educated/JD Equivalent + One Year US Education
Foreign Attorneys Taking the General Bar Exam3

Distance Education Law Schools / Practice of "Law" w/out a License
« on: January 16, 2014, 10:59:47 PM »
Given that a number of DL students won't pass the California Bar - there are actually a number of ways to use your JD and practice law without out a license.

1.  Social Security Advocate - they do the same job as an attorney and collect a similar fee; only difference is that SSA does not withhold their fee like it does for attorneys sometimes.

2.  Veterans Disability Advocate

3.  Tax Court (if you can qualify)

In England McKenzie Friends can collect fees:

Anyone know of any other examples?

Non-Traditional Students / Re: UK or USA for post grad law degree
« on: January 13, 2014, 07:41:38 PM »
Attending law school in Singapore to become a Singapore lawyer is too logical. Really it does make sense to attend law school where you intend to qualify first.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: January 09, 2014, 07:59:39 AM »
Agree with you 100% on Taft.  It is what it is.

Beware of "friends" bearing free gifts.

General Board / Re: Entering Law School in USA
« on: January 06, 2014, 07:03:31 PM »
Your high school is equivalent to 3 years of college?  I'd get that in writing, not someone told you.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: January 05, 2014, 11:07:49 AM »
If you are willing to take the cases other attorney's spurn and learn as you earn, DL is for you.  Workers Comp, Disability, Immigration and contract PD can all be entered with no or minimum experience provided one gets additional training first.  Check what fields are needed in the locality you plan to practice in by asking attorneys what sort of cases they reject. You don't even need much of an office anymore and California does not require malpractice insurance - so barriers to solo practice are non existent. If solo practice seems too daunting; I'd rethink the DL option.  In theory any law firm can hire you but they won't unless they are your uncle and you will be frozen out of most government jobs because they usually require a ABA or California accredited degree. All online degrees are viewed suspiciously by employers and will contune to be so for many years to come. 

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: January 04, 2014, 07:18:43 PM »
Graduated from Taft and made over 100K as a solo practice attorney my first full year out in 1993.  But if it's a salary you crave, you will earn $8700 at the mall selling shoes.  In other words if you can't do it on your own, look elsewhere for law school.  No one hires DL grads.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Law School to Offer Hybrid Online JD
« on: December 27, 2013, 08:39:22 PM »
The market will regulate the population of lawyers, if law grads can't find work as lawyers, they will become gainfully employed as shoe salesmen, insurance agents, venture capitalists or hoboes.  Therefore no reason anyone who wants to go to law school and can pay the fee and graduate should be denied that experience.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Law School to Offer Hybrid Online JD
« on: December 27, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »
Online instructors are paid maybe a tenth of of what law professors get, also a shift to online means one does not need high maintenance libraries nor all those adminstrative employees.  It means lean and mean competition in the law school business and lower tuition.  That does not bode well for the dinosaurs at the ABA.  There is also the same struggle going on in the business of law, disruptors like Avvo show that clients are not necessarily wed to the old school law firm model of providing legal services at $300 an hour.  Most services, aside  from court room litigation, can be provided via Internet. effectively and cheaper.  This also means a blurring of jurisdictional lines which is the death knell for the state bars who are unable to effectively regulate due to their territorial based model from the 19th Century.  The ABA and its allies will resist innovation until the market sends them to the dust bin of history along with the buggy whip and horse shoe.

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