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« on: November 23, 2011, 05:13:18 PM »
Use some common sense, call the LLM department at NYU and ask to speak to the graduate advisor or department chair. First thing I'd ask point blank is if a non JD can be admitted to the program. Personally, I'd assume a JD would be the usual prerequisite for a LLM unless told otherwise.
« on: November 21, 2011, 09:32:57 AM »
What you want then is a MPA (Masters in Public Administration), a PhD in Public Administration from a reputable school would take quite a few years and would not add any value unless you wanted to become college faculty. You can get an accredited MPA online through Kaplan University and others.
« on: November 20, 2011, 10:40:21 PM »
I disagree, the ABA sets the standards and State Bar Examiners fall in line with a few exceptions. An attorney with a California DL or correspondence degree can usually qualify in only one other jurisidicition, District of Columbia. A Concord grad did sue and was able to take the bar in Massachusetts. On paper at least it seems possible to qualify in Iowa, Indiana, and maybe Wisconsin in narrow circumstances. The so called reciprocity agreements block out DL grads, California therefore is correct to deny reciprocity as most states will not permit non ABA to even take their bars. The ABA hypocrits however will gladly take your money if you are an attorney from a DL school and let you be a member.
« on: November 20, 2011, 09:37:33 PM »
Immigration, Social Security Disability, and Veterans Disability are federal practice areas, it is possible to practice nationwide with just a California license if you are careful. California also has state regulated Immigration Consultants who are not attorneys. http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/general/immigration_consultants.php
You do not need a law degree to be one.
PS Assuming one could get into a LLM program without JD, they would not qualify to take the bar unless they already had a foreign Bachelors in Law or a JD.
« on: November 19, 2011, 10:01:18 PM »
I've decided on pursuing a law degree in the US. I'm a US citizen but have spent the last 4.5 years in England getting a BA in Business Management and working in sales. I'm pretty burnt out from sales and have decided to do something less monotonous and more steady in terms of salary and check out law. So basically I'm wondering, what do I need to do to prepare for law school? Are there certain classes/units I need to get before I apply?
Any help would be appreciated.
Your English BA plus the LSAT should be sufficient to apply to law schools. So I'd recommend a LSAT prep course of some sort.
I canvR never understand the part about attorneys being unemployed, they can immediately go into solo practice unlike England which it makes it tough on solo practitioners.
« on: November 19, 2011, 09:56:26 PM »
The QLTS is not as straight forward as the QLTT it replaced - the QLTT was a three day open book (outlines provided by the test provider!) exam in New York. http://www.qlts.com/page/us-attorneys
If you get a Practising Certificate, better read the rules, England has both a Law Society and a Solicitors Regulatory Authority - being a non resident solicitor can be lucrative but you need a plan to make it work.
« on: November 19, 2011, 06:36:13 PM »
There are a few problems:
1. Most American high school graduates would flounder in an English LLB program. The majority of them cannot string two sentences together and have no idea of history or law.
2. Living in England is not going to be cheaper than an undergraduate school in the US.
3. The LLB would be of little use unless the American were able to get a practising certificate as a solicitor.
4. Once they obtain a PC, they still would need a work permit.
5. Then with requisite experience, they might be able to take the New York and few other bars, though it is just as likely a LLM might be required first by the bar examiners.
6. As a non EU citizen, the European lawyer scheme does not apply.
7. Aside from English territories, reciprocity is not available.
The better route is to get the JD, pass any bar, get two years PQE and take the QLTS open book exam in New York and immediately qualify as an English solicitor.
« on: November 19, 2011, 05:47:08 PM »
I think law school admissions departments know a prune from a plum, APUS may be accredited but like other online schools does not have a good reputation in general owing to low admission standards and lax grading for retention purposes. An APUS graduate could have a rough time getting admitted at a better law school.
« on: November 19, 2011, 05:42:49 PM »
A PhD will be much better than a JD unless you want to practice law. A JD requires no dissertation and is not afforded the same respect in academia as a PhD. An EdD. might be even easier to obtain and afford the same status.
« on: November 19, 2011, 05:20:55 PM »
so which option do you plan to pick? You don't seem to like ABA or online.
You doing the on campus CBE accredited route?
I am currently doing an external LLD at UNISA online, graduated from a correspondence law school 20 years ago and have been licensed in multiple jurisdictions. I don't like ABA because they limit me to a few states and federal courts. I have no problem with online but the ABA effectively shuts non ABA grads out of most jobs therefore one would be foolish to attend non ABA unless precluded from doing so by geographic considerations. I would also maintain that anyone who succeeds with the California DL route would have succeeded at a ABA school regardless.
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