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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: distance learning
« on: December 08, 2011, 10:52:24 AM »
There are two external PhD/LLD options I know of and both are good, University of Leiden and University of South Africa. You need to contact them with your thesis proposal first to see if anyone on the faculty is interested in the topic.  I am with University of South Africa but I have a background representing African entities. Leiden might be the first choice:

http://law.leiden.edu/research/phdprogramme/how-to-become/howtobecomephdcandidate.html

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Online vs Correspondence
« on: December 08, 2011, 10:32:18 AM »
Unless there is a major cost differential that makes a difference, the online courses with an instructor are going to be better than correspondence. I did the correspondence route because there was no online 25 years ago. But in my opinion a successful correspondence student will need familiarity with the legal field or courts and proven ability to memorize law outlines, statutes, Blacks Dictionary and nutshells by sheer force of will or they will likely wash out quicky.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Expunged Records
« on: December 06, 2011, 09:32:23 PM »
To figure out the law:

Look at the annotated code for each state's expungement laws, then check the case law in the annotations.

You can also do the Google thing and come up with sites like this which may or may not be accurate:

http://www.americanpardons.com/clear_your_record/state_by_state_policies/

Bottom line if you fail to disclose and it shows up in the FBI database you may be screwed.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Expunged Records
« on: December 05, 2011, 07:33:41 PM »
Consult with a lawyer who specializes in professional discipline defense, there are several who advertise in California Lawyer magazine, you really don't want to go into details here.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: distance learning
« on: December 03, 2011, 09:19:32 PM »
LLD is a PhD in Law, it involves writing a thesis, no class work. My specialty is international law. An American JD is considered the equivalent of Bachelors in Law outside the US even if the ABA makes the inflated claim a JD is the same as a PhD. 

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Expunged Records
« on: December 03, 2011, 09:14:37 PM »
Generally speaking expungement does not grant some sort of privacy right. In the context of moral fitness to practice law, it is still relevant:

"We are aware that his requirement [to make a full disclosure of any charges made against him] calls for a high degree of frankness and truthfulness on the part of the attorney making application for admission to practice law in this state, but no good reason presents itself why such a high standard of integrity should not be required."
Spears v. State Bar, 211 Cal. 183, 187 (1930)

Of the forty states that allow expungement or sealing of arrests not leading to conviction, twenty-nine permit an individual to deny the arrest. Of the sixteen states that allow expungement or sealing of convictions, thirteen permit an individual to deny the conviction. Ben Geiger, The Case for Treating Ex-Offenders as a Suspect Class, 94 Cal. L. Rev. 1191, 1200 (2006).

My understanding is that not all expungements are equal, depends on the state and court.  I am sure some applicants do deny the conviction and suffer no consequences.

So a lot depends on the states involved and local practices. I am not aware of any law though that prevents someone from asking about an expungement.


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Non-Traditional Students / Re: In a holding pattern...
« on: December 01, 2011, 11:13:10 PM »
I instruct at an online accredited MSLS (MS in Legal Studies) program at a well known university. Some students do take it as a prep for law school. Most for some sort of job or career advancement. It is not the same curriculum as law school but does introduce you to the law. If you can justify the time involved it may be worth it. In theory it might enhance your job prospects and/or admission to law school. The UIS curriculum looks about right to me.

Government employees and paralegals seem to get the most out of the Masters in Legal Studies programs. In the alternative you might look at a Masters in Criminal Justice or Public Administration online program.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Expunged Records
« on: December 01, 2011, 06:27:38 PM »
The state bar will also ask the same question for its moral fitness requirement, you are supposed to report expunged convictions, I assume we are talking about California.

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/MoralCharacter/Factors.aspx

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: distance learning
« on: December 01, 2011, 06:18:08 PM »
Nope, I have a PhD in Political Science and a JD from Taft. I want to move over to a law faculty which I am working on a LLD.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Expunged Records
« on: December 01, 2011, 01:27:58 PM »
Quote from: jonlevy on December 01, 2011, 01:23:22 PM
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there.....

Advances in information technology mean that records expunged in the last 20 years may well leave public traces that could be a problem. Regardless of state law, I'd want to be sure that a simple Google or Lexis Public Information search is not going to turn up dirt. If that is the case, better to explain it in advance then get whacked for the far more serious issues of lying on a school or bar form.

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