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L.L.M. Board / Re: Perks to an LLM
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:51:10 PM »
Has to do with the California bar's reciprocity agreements:

http://www.lawsociety.ie/Documents/education/qltt/certofeligform.pdf

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L.L.M. Board / Re: LLM or MBA?
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:49:12 PM »
SJD is an academic degree  Most law school faculty have JDs.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Legal Consultant Exam
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:09:44 AM »
My dear, who do you think the results of  legal research are directed to?  I think I can spell it out for you.  Legal research projects  means attorneys are the paralegals' clients.  You really need to do your homework before you post comments.

Quite true, attorneys can hire who they want to do legal research. They can also outsource it to India since all that is usually involved is an understanding of the law and the ability to do key word and/or boolean searches. But not anyone can pick up Lexis and do this, it does take some skill.  But it is not practice of law or anything close to it.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Taft or Concord Law School
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:36:26 AM »
"If you couldn't crack the second tier, you have absolutely no business practicing law.  You have been warned."

That's about as stupid as the other stuff posted.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Legal Consultant Exam
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:32:39 AM »
"Someone with a non-ABA degree is essentially a paralegal."

If they have a law license they are an attorney, if they don't, they are not a paralegal by default unless they actually work as a paralegal, usually in a law office.

I might add many paralegals hold a MSLS (Masters in Legal Studies) from regionally accredited schools.  If I were hiring paralegals that is the qualification plus experience I would look at and I would still be dubious of online schools even if they are regionally accredited.





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L.L.M. Board / Re: Perks to an LLM
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:24:07 AM »
I already do.  Anyone with 2 years PQE from certain states like California can take the bar exam for England and Wales.  The former QLTT which I took was a three day open book exam in New York. Surprisingly there were only three or four other takers.  They now have a new exam called the QLTS which I am unaware of.  Ireland offers a similar QLTT exam for California attorneys.  Not all state bars have a relationship with these countries' law societies though.

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L.L.M. Board / Re: LLM or MBA?
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:20:15 AM »
JD is the highest US professional degree in law, there is a LLM  for foreign law school graudates that permits them to take the bar.  The other LLMs are quicky specialty degrees like tax.  The highest academic degree would be the equivalent to a PhD in Law or a foreign LLD but those are not on a professional track. 

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Non-Traditional Students / Re: Online Law School for Wisconsin Bar
« on: April 18, 2012, 09:33:27 AM »
The online law school will work initially only for the California Bar, what you can do after that depends on your skill in navigating the arcane rules of other state bars.

Online law school students generally are substandard because no one in their right mind is going to put all that extra time, effort and money into to getting a degree that is only recognized in a few jurisdictions.

If ABA schools were to offer accredited online programs that paradigm would change.

However, overpaid law professors are not going to go quietly itno the night since online classes do not require $125,000 a year profs to facilitate.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Legal Consultant Exam
« on: April 17, 2012, 10:29:32 PM »
Trial strategy and legal memoranda? Why would a lawyer want advice from someone who is not a lawyer and has never been one on how to "strategize at trial" or write a letter?  If you want to learn trial strategy, learn from a winner, Gerry Spence runs a school:

http://www.triallawyerscollege.com/

Trial strategy and legal memoranda are normally directed at attorneys.

A legal consultant who seeks out lay people will not even be working very long.  Consumers want to know what you can do for them.  If you cannot represent them before a judge,  they will find out.  Legal work is results oriented.  If you cannot provide results, making a living will be difficult.  Now, intentional misrepresentation is a different matter.  Calling yourself an attorney when you are not licensed is not what I am talking about here. 

Assisting someone with his Chapter 7/13 petition is legal consultation.  Appearing with someone before an IRS agent, as an enrolled agent, is legal consultation.  Think outside the box, while following all the rules.

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L.L.M. Board / Re: LLM or MBA?
« on: April 17, 2012, 10:23:12 PM »
MBA would not be worth the extra effort if you are going to practice law.  The LLM is of dubious value as well since the JD is considered the highest professional degree in law.

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