Not sue I follow your question - correspondence study would have more emphasis on memorization and less interaction with a program because of its design.
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FYBE is always a 20% pass rate or thereabouts. The chambers/offices people are outliars since they likely know quite a bit about the law already. Correspondence should always be a little higher because it consists of pure memorization which is the key to passing bars.
« on: January 30, 2012, 06:38:30 PM »
You obviously have not attended law school, common sense and law are mutually exclusive.
« on: January 28, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »
Nope each and every federal court and agency (if applicable) has its own rules. The good news is that DL degree holders who pass the Cal Bar can join many of them on motion.
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:19:41 AM »
Most federal district courts restrict bar membership to in state attorneys, some require co-counsel on cases, the minority permit out of state attorneys to become members, ND Illinois, USDC North Dakota, USDC Puerto Rico come to mind. The Circuit Courts of Appeals are more liberal. But even though I can represent a client in the 11th Circuit in Atlanta, I cannot set up an office there because I am not a Georgia attorney. For a single case, pro hac vice is always available but that usually but not always requires local counsel. And therein lies the idiocy of the entire scheme, the higher the court, the less thaty are concerned about your law degree or where your state bar membership is from.
There is a lawsuit in California ongoing about this:
« on: January 27, 2012, 09:09:45 AM »
You can do Vets, Tax, and Social Security advocacy now without a law license to one degree or another. Once you have the law license from California, even though you are in federal administrative practice, the Washington state bar may take a dim view of you opening an office and advertising as an attorney with only a California license. This is a very gray area if you intend to have a physical presence in Washington. Since you would be competing with Washington licensed lawyers in the same field, eventually you will be subject to to a UPL (unlicensed practice of law) referal to the state bar. So instead of being outside the box, you will be in the box unless you plan accordingly and do your due diligence to avoid such issues. But the issue arises all the time - one just needs to be aware how to avoid it.
« on: January 26, 2012, 08:47:46 PM »
Taft GPA was 2.79 but maybe that was before everyone expected an A or a B by right. The only testing as I remember it were proctored essay tests.
what do you consider a low GPA? It couldn't have been too bad if you got into additional grad programs after that.
« on: January 25, 2012, 06:06:35 PM »
I added the extra credentials because I moved away from California and couldn't get admitted anywhere except DC. Works for me. I did the DL route because I tried law school and hated it with a passion. The lectures caused me mental anguish. Then I saw how lawyers did less work and got paid more, so gave DL a try. My GPA was ridiculously low at Taft but I had no problem with FYBE and Bar.
DL students fail for several reasons:
1. lack of time commitment
2. lack of basic reading and writing skills
3. inability to memorize and retain information
4. lack of previous exposure to the legal system
Successful DL grads likely would for the most part of have been admitted to a regular law school.
« on: January 25, 2012, 04:33:31 PM »
Each state has different admission rules so citing a case from one state in another state generally isn't going to be much help. The two cases mentioned so far do not persuade me that DL degree holders would fair very well on petitiuons even with substantial practice experience. If you read enough of these rules, you will see a good number of states go out of their way to ban correspondence degrees from any consideration. Best chance would be in a state that has non ABA schools.
But on the whole the entire matter is ridiculous, a DL degreeholder can argue a case before the US Supreme Court and US Circuit Courts of Appeal but cannot represent a DUI case in most states. I have nothing but contempt for the entire ABA scam.
« on: January 24, 2012, 05:46:00 PM »
What one has to lose is a lot of time, hassle and expense.