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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 27, 2013, 08:06:45 PM »
By the way I have an online JD and then did the QLTT - so I am not anti DL, I am just warning you the bars are not your friend in these matters and to get it in writing....

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 27, 2013, 08:04:29 PM »
I also have tried to warn that this may not even result in a bar ticket. Unless he has a firm committment in writing from the Cal Bar that they will accept a foreign distance learning LLB plus LLM; I have my doubts the bar will comply. The Cal Bar as I have noted before is not obligated to accept just any foreign LLB - would they accept a LLB from UNISA or University of Zimbabwe absent a license - I am not so sure.  I think the bar will look at the degree itself and make a decision and since it is a DL degree and not Oxford, the result may be in question. 

However I do disagree, a LLB plus LLM and bar course is likely just as good as a California DL JD - that is to say about 5-1 odds against passing.

If it was me - I'd go for the solicitor license first and then the the US Bar.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 18, 2013, 10:15:41 PM »
It is hard enough to get a bar ticket with a foreign license - getting in with a foreign law degree and a one year LLM sounds good theory but likely will not work.  How would the bar evaluate the foreign law degree? A 1 year LLM is not the same as a 3 year JD. 

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 13, 2013, 08:56:11 PM »
New York will generally let English solicitors take the bar but the catch is they have to get licensed first which means a training contract in England first.  There has been discussion here that one could get a foreign distance learning law degree and then somehow qualify to take a US bar without being licensed as a foreign attorney first.  I have my doubts it will work since the bar will apprehend that we have a US resident obtaining a foreign DL degree when they simply could have enrolled in a California DL school.  I see no reason why the bar would do someone outside their scheme any favors.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: St. Francis Law
« on: October 06, 2013, 09:02:16 PM »
Concord is regionally accredited but not by the state bar.  That means a Concord JD in theory is marginally better because it also has some academic standing if one wanted to enter a non law graduate program later or try for a job based on the JD alone.

http://www.concordlawschool.edu/Accreditation.aspx

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 06, 2013, 08:53:04 PM »
That's a bargain, what would a non EU resident pay?

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: October 02, 2013, 08:06:03 PM »
Which UK law school is under 5K? 

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: St. Francis Law
« on: October 02, 2013, 08:05:11 PM »
Both schools are not accredited and they will not get you a ticket to the bar, only the First Year Exam which has only a 20% overall pass rate.  This is why how much the school costs is a non criteria.  The only criteria for online California law schools are First Year exam pass rate and Bar pass rate. Of course one can theoretically become a lawyer by going to these schools however reality is the statistics. 

I have seen lots of theories on how one can become a lawyer here and there and not go to a traditional law schools but the proof is the bar pass rate, nothing more or less.

There are only about  3 or 4 distance law schools in California that have a track record of any sort of success and even then your odds are more like 5 to 1 against passing the bar.

I'm not against it by any means, just in favor of transparency.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: St. Francis Law
« on: September 27, 2013, 09:01:39 PM »
Putting your money on an online LS with no track record of success is a huge gamble.  A lot of these schools come and go and graduate few if any attorneys.  Go with a school that has actually graduated lawyers.  if you don't get a law license all your money is wasted on an unaccredited degree or worse a first year.

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Anyone who has a familiarity for multivariate statistics and quantitative analysis could explain how it is very easy to take raw data (test scores) and achieve the desired results.  I am not saying it is done that way, I am just saying if a State Bar wanted a 20% pass rate it can more or less achieve it by manipulating the data.  I just find find it odd that those FYLSE exam takers always fail 80% of the time or conversely always pass 20% of the time.

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