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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 03, 2014, 05:26:32 PM »
Bad for the profession but especially bad for the student who may have been initially deceived by Novus.  But I think as far as a Novus grad practicing law, that is a moot question because I really doubt there are any.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 03, 2014, 10:05:04 AM »
Novus has no faculty, no accreditation, and no lawyers apparently associated with it. Except based on misrepresentation, how can that be grounds for admission into an accredited LLM program?  Diploma mill degrees are never valid, that is what Touro is seeking in the way of a finding by a court.  Allowing a Novus grad to take a bar would be a complete undermining of the entire system. California online grads have to take the First Year Law Exam - Novus grads nothing.  Additionally, Novus is not a foreign law school.  They are simply an alleged offshore corporation not recognized as a school in their home jurisdiction RMI or anywhere else.  Touro will get discovery and if Novus complies, more facts will come out.

Novus is almost certainly an IBC and therefore cannot legally do business or trade in their home jurisdiction, the RMI.

http://www.ocra.com/jurisdictions/marshall.asp

The few jurisdictions that offer lawyer supervised study have no need of Novus nor would any attorney want anything to do with them IMO.


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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 02, 2014, 07:56:37 PM »
I guess Novus did it's research when it chose California as its operation HQ.  I will say it is virtually impossible to get the AG's office to act on a consumer complaint.  The fact that Touro got Novus served and to answer is impressive.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 02, 2014, 05:19:53 PM »
Cal Bar instead of Touro should have filed this - it is not like they don't have staff.  After all they go after lawyers for minor to major infractions of the rules - seems they could have done it if they wanted to or at least referred it to the AG.  If it's a diploma mill as Touro alleges than you can be certain they are in violation of at least a few laws in California.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 02, 2014, 02:23:15 PM »

Clearly, this demonstrates the ABA needs to approve more schools!

LOL. Tells me the state bars are not doing their jobs.  According to the lawsuit, Novus operates in California.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:30:42 PM »
The complaint said a Novus grad launched a frivolous lawsuit against Touro, when Touro would not honor their bogus degree.  So Touro had to pay legal fees because Novus was falsely telling grads they had a "foreign law degree" and all they had to do is enroll for a LLM to qualify for the bar.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 02, 2014, 10:38:56 AM »
It is a class action seeking a declaratory ruling that Novus degrees are worthless. Touro alleges Novus is deceiving both students and other law programs by claiming it is a "law school."  Graduates of Novus tried to get admitted to Touro and then apparently tried to force their admission as graduates of a foreign law school. I think the lawsuit has merit because practice of law and law schools are a regulated category.  Here you have what appears to be non attorneys instructing by email and multiple choice.

Touro is doing everyone a great service; on the other hand the state bars, in particular California where Novus seems to be based, seems to be remiss in its duties to protect the public and legitimate online law schools from an alleged scam.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Touro College vs. Novus
« on: October 01, 2014, 10:39:18 PM »
Novus answered with a general denial March 12, 2014, nothing since:

http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=159319-2013&Submit2=Search

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sigh, whatever man. If my boss says "don't do this" I am not going to argue with him that he didn't really mean it or that he couldn't enforce it if he did.

1.  They didn't tell me, the recipient, not to disclose the email.

2.  There is nothing confidential in the email.

3.  It is public information.

You need to be able to distinguish between privileged and confidential material and information that is not if you want to be a lawyer.









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