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I note the original poster has no answer on the work permit issue, curious eh?

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 20, 2012, 07:08:53 PM »
Roald - these guys do not understand that the statutes involved are open to reasonable interpretation by the Bar examiners.  Think pro se litigants who latch onto something like UCC 2-207 and you will get the idea of the circular reasoning involved here.  MASL and NOVUS seek out these folks and give them a "degree." Since no attorney is involved as far as I know with either outfit, they cannot per se be law schools nor are the degrees valid in any jurisdiction.  I might add being a California registered law school involves a lot more than getting a business license, there are some hoops to jump through.

The DC Bar Examiners are actually hard asses when it comes to this sort of monkey business, see Teare v. Committe on Admissions, 566 A.2d 23 (1989) for example of DC's over zealous defense of its turf under Rule 46.  DC is no paragon of inclusiveness, it's bar is second only to California in difficulty, and the 5 year motion in rule is a fluke carry over from federal court rules as the DC bar was only established in 40 years ago.  My experience is that DC lawyers are usually appalled that their bar might admit online and correspondence degree students previously admitted in California.


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I might add too that while I am online faculty, I also have a PhD from a regionally accredited school.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 20, 2012, 07:46:04 AM »
YOU TALK WITH SUCH AUTHORITY..//WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS ARE YOU A LICENSED ATTORNEY IN ANY STATE.. And where did you go to school and what degrees do you hold..      You have alot of threads all over this site down grading on line Education.HAVE YOU EVER TRIED ON LINE COURSES OF ANY KIND.I did my Undergraduate work at IONA COLLEGE AND ST JOHNS UNVERSITY BRICK AND MORTAR SCHOOLS.I RECEIVED MY MBA AT AIU ON LINE AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL.WITH ALL YOUR STRONG OPINIONS, PUTING DOWN SCHOOLS AND PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS THAT WANT TO FURTHER THERE EDUCATION ,WHAT MAKES YOU THE JUDGE AND JURY... RON A  ...AS -BBA-MBA ..

OK BBA-MBA, I really do know what I am talking about. I am not putting anyone down, I am saying MASL and NOVUS are a complete waste of time if you think those "degrees" will count for anything.  I won't say another word, you obviously don't want to do due diligence like calling the DC bar.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 20, 2012, 07:42:47 AM »
Angie you are mistaken - MASL grads cannot take the California Bar. The reason MASL is not a registered California distance learning school is because there is no attorney associated with it.  Ask yourself, who runs the school, do you even know and what is their credential?  I know you want to be an attorney some day so learn to follow the rules, there is no short cut to becoming an attorney, only the normal way and the hard way.  Go ahead and Petition, you have a zero chance of success.

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hi ,i have seen many posts from people like you  down grading any one trying to get ahead through on line education .Have you ever tried it and what schools did you graduate? RON A. BBA-MBA

I graduated from Taft and have been an attorney for many years and I am online faculty at two graduate schools so I know what I am talking about.  When it comes to law, there is really only one online game in the US and those are the California registered distance learning law schools and the odds are at least 5-1 or worse against succeeding.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 19, 2012, 08:38:29 PM »
MASL will not fit the definition of a law school so you cannot qualify under D.C. App. R. 46.

It is not just that it is unaccredited but like NOVUS they are simply issuing pieces of paper (diplomas) without any oversight.

Further I do not think whoever runs either of these schools is actually an attorney.

I am trying to help you understand that you are being misled by your own desire to become an attorney.


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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 18, 2012, 10:16:46 PM »
Why pay more than 1500  for the privilege?  If you are going to attend anything other than an ABA brick and mortar law school,  you need to realize that you need to be ten times more competitive than the typical law school graduate.

Assuming you drank the MASL kool aid and really believe DC would let you take the bar, how would you finance the 26 in person credits at Touro or anywhere else that cost 40K?  That's straight cash since I don't think Uncle Sam lends money for non degree programs.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Mid-Atlantic School of Law
« on: August 18, 2012, 10:11:50 PM »
I am not sure why you have so much anger for MASL did you start there and get dismissed.Rule 46 clearly states graduate  from a non ABA  school.  Take 26 credits from a ABA  school AND YOU CAN SIT FOR THE DC BAR .This very clear .Schools like Novus or any of the Calif non ABA  schools all fit the same mold.Pass rates are all very very low for the BABY BAR and the BAR .Why spend thousands for some thing that most likely will not happen. The student needs to really spend 8 to 10 hours a day studing i rather spend $1500 and take my chances.There is no such thing as a quality non ABA phony Law School .Ron A BBA--   MBA

I repeat, NOVUS and MASL are not actually "Law Schools" because they are recognized by no one as degree granting institutions and their degrees do not qualify one to take a bar exam.  Can you produce an example of even one individual who qualified to take a bar anywhere in the US with a NOVUS or MASL degree? If not, do you aim to be the first? Do you think the DC Bar Examiners are so stupid that they will not check out these school's websites? 

On accreditation MASL skirts the issue and NOVUS give us this gem:

"Novus University is a Registered and Charted Private International Postsecondary Law School. Novus University Grants and Certifies Law Degrees under Corporate Educational Charter and the authority of the Novus University Board of Directors to graduates who meet School School of Law Graduate Requirements."

LOL! They are offshore diploma mills.  Reading their websites causes one to lose at least 20 IQ points.

"Sum ergo cogito; cogito ergo dubito"

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How does a non EU citizen qualify for a training contract at the end of the degree without a work permit?

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