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General Board / Re: JD vs. MJ
« on: March 03, 2013, 08:31:46 PM »
MJ sounds like a MSLS  or MALS, essentially a Masters in Legal Studies.  I used to instruct in a MSLS program, the degree is useful to paralegals and government employees looking to promote due to the erosion of the job market which requires everyone to have some sort of MA to get to the next level..  However, unless you already have a job in the legal or public administration field, I doubt it will enhance any career propsects.  It definitely is not a JD degree and at best you would end up taking orders from some second year associate attorney. The curriculum is pretty basic and not near as intense as law school. Programs that dwell heavy on theory instead of hard skills like research and writing are questionnable.

The ABA does not have a lot of direct authority but they can be very influential. Unfortunately, they have missed the boat on multi jurisdictional practice, the internet, online schools etc.  They are the status quo so don't expect much of any use to come from them.  The good news is that their main backers, big law, will be as obsolete as the Hummer and TWA  in a another decade or so as nimbler forms of obtaining legal services take over.

General Board / Re: How do lawyers get clients?
« on: March 02, 2013, 06:13:09 PM »
I was just wondering ways that lawyers get clients if you ever marketed for a lawyer...

Thanks in advance

Put an add in the local newspaper and mention "free consultation" or "workers compensation."

You can also ask other lawyers to send you the clients they don't want (there is usually good reason why).

What you shouldn't do is use runners, cappers, chiropractors and independent paralegals to obtains clients and don't solicit clients at hospitals or prisons.

You can hang around court rooms on law and motion day looking like a lawyer and clients may approach you.

It  isn't exactly clear to me what you are asking but if you take some non law courses over the summer after being admitted to law school; how would the law school even know? And why would it be any of their business if it was in a totally different field of study like psychology?  Unless these are continuing education courses needed to keep a professional license current, you would be well advised just to concentrate on your first year law courses.

General Board / Re: law student help for someone doing case pro se
« on: March 02, 2013, 05:57:18 PM »
Hmm federal court and taking on a bank? You need a lawyer not a law student.

Where actually did you get a JD from?  Any law school grad would know that trying to practice without a license is UPL.

Who actually owns M*SL and who is on the faculty?  Seems the only faculty member is a Mr. Gilbert.

Not sure how a transfer from an online school to a non online law school would work or if it is even possible?

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Common Law v. Civil Law
« on: February 09, 2013, 12:09:28 PM »
The differences really are not that huge.  If you can understand civil law, you can understand common law.  Many civil law educated attorneys practice in common law England with no problems under the EU rules.  I think the difference is overhyped.  Same thing with the big todo about community property states.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: License Lawyers Without JDs?
« on: February 05, 2013, 11:36:26 PM »
This is the stupidest thing California has ever come up with:

"The State Bar Board of Trustees has expressed interest in examining a limited-practice licensing program that would create a new class of professionals who could give legal advice."

They already have so called independent paralegals messing up peoples family law cases; non lawyers dispensing legal advice sounds like a bad idea to me.

Economically, speaking the Cal bar must be smoking crack; they have too many lawyers; creating a whole new profession to underbid lawyers will drive solo practitioners into bankruptcy.

The rationale here is that since paralegals are already practicing law without a license in California and are not being prosecuted; it makes sense to license them. and collect dues!  The consumer is the loser since many so called independent paralegals rarely can fill out a form correctly since they do not know the law nor understand it.

The solution is to go with an undergraduate law degree with a 1 year trainee contract.  This would result in better lawyers than are being turned out now with JDs and no practical experience.

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