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Online Law Schools / Online LLB
« on: November 03, 2012, 07:45:35 PM »
Well here it is in black and white, yes you can qualify in California and elsewhere with an online LLB and LLM.

I find it all very distasteful - New York will accept a foreign online LLB/LLM student but refuses to permit qualified California lawyers with a California online degree to take the New York bar.

With all due respect to the University of London, English law is quite different from American law.

Secondly, how can new New York justify refusing to let California attorneys take their bar because they have an online degree yet let foreign online students and lawyers take the same bar?

Online Law Schools / Orly Taitz for US Senate
« on: May 12, 2012, 07:14:30 PM »
Orly Taitz, a California GOP candidate for the US senate has been getting lambasted for quite a while due to her serial lawsuits against the President. The critics somehow blame Taft Law School which she graduated from and passed the bar. I don't see any correlation here?

Online Law Schools / Limited Practice Officer
« on: March 06, 2012, 06:46:40 PM »
OK - after using Google a bit, there is actually something in Washington State at least called a Limited Practice Officer:

In theory it looks more lucrative than being a paralegal.

CrazyLawStudent however should have been able to find this by Googling instead of wasting time here for weeks.

Still I am always glad to learn something new.  But this looks like a fancy name for a real estate escrow officer since there does not appear to be any real educational requirement except perhaps a Bachelors degree and passing the exam.

Canadian Law Students / Canadian Legal Advisor CLA
« on: March 01, 2012, 04:18:55 PM »
Can anyone clarify what exactly a CLA with a non Canadian law degree and license can do, it seems they can advise on matters of public international law but the requirements and parameters seem to vary by province.  This would seem to be different from a Foreign Legal Consultant?

Online Law Schools / Kill All the Law Schools
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:44:24 AM »
The Wall Street Journal OpEd is suggesting we bring back the Bachelors in Law and get rid of the ABA law schools, I agree:

 JANUARY 17, 2012
First Thing We Do, Let's Kill All the Law Schools

Allowing undergraduate law majors to take the bar exam would increase the number of attorneys and lower legal fees..


Over three years, tuition at a law school can exceed $150,000. Even this princely sum does not capture the full cost. During the time spent at these schools, most students could have earned substantial income. A recent analysis by Herwig Schlunk of Vanderbilt University suggests that for bright students with attractive career opportunities, the total cost of law school is closer to $275,000.

The high cost of graduate legal education limits the supply of lawyers and leads to higher legal fees. And higher fees place legal services out of the reach of middle-income families at a time when increasing complexity demands more access to these services. In short, the current system leaves citizens underserved and young lawyers indebted.

Some have argued that to reduce costs states should simply drop their educational requirements, policing lawyer quality through bar exams, if at all. But the requirement of a legal education can serve important public needs.

First, most citizens, particularly the less educated, do not know much about law and have difficulty evaluating the skill of individual lawyers. Some education in law makes it more likely that a lawyer will be competent. Second, educated lawyers provide a public good. In the United States, most important political questions become legal questions. Educated lawyers can supply a deeper social understanding that informs political policy-making.

Here is a straightforward solution: States should permit undergraduate colleges to offer majors in law that will entitle graduates to take the bar exam. If they want to add a practical requirement, states could also ask graduates to serve one-year apprenticeships before becoming eligible for admission to the bar.....
Full article in today's WSJ.

Online Law Schools / Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« on: January 13, 2012, 05:40:51 PM »
Assuming one passes the California Bar with a DL degree, where can one get admitted excluding Federal Courts and Tribunals based just on one's California bar license.

I would also exclude petitioning as in the case of Massachusetts, New Mexico, and Idaho as that is based on a number of factors besides being a member of the California bar such as residency and individual circumstances. As well as exclude restricted admissions such as corporate attorney and pro hac vice.

1.  Motion in DC after 5 years post qualification experience (PQE)
2.  Take the QLTS exam for England & Wales to become as solicitor after 2 years PQE
3.  Take the Irish QLTT to become a solcitior after one year PQE.
4.  Motion in Iowa after ten years PQE.

Note the ABA chart is often wrong or gives the impression that very limited exceptions apply generally.

Can anyone add non federal and non petition jurisdictions to this list?

Job Search / Back to the Future
« on: December 11, 2011, 06:29:07 AM »
Intuit is hiring experienced attorney tax advisors:

Looks good huh?  Intuit  is paying a paltry $16-$18 an hour and you have to work a straight 8 hour shift from home like you are in a cubicle. Twenty years ago when I got my law license with a non ABA degree and no one would hire me, I got the lowest lawyer job possible, representing lifer inmates at a maximum secuirty prison at their parole hearings. The California Parole Board paid $23 and hour, the other lawyers thought I was crazy but I needed the work.

Intuit would not offer that salary unless there were takers....

Pursuing an LLM / LLD
« on: November 13, 2011, 05:47:59 AM »
I am starting an external LLD program at UNISA (University of South Africa), does anyone have experience with UNISA or Leiden?

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