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Distance Education Law Schools / ALU
« on: December 06, 2014, 09:46:33 PM »
ALU makes a big claim it is  a "nationally accredited distance education program for the Juris Doctor degree."

http://www.alu.edu/lp/law-program.php

But when you read the "fine print" turns out they are talking about DETC.

http://www.alu.edu/lp/accreditation.php

Is DETC really the equivalent of regional accreditation?

http://www.alu.edu/blog/2012/10/myths-about-detc-accreditation/

Taft is also DETC and I have been able to have it recognized by SAQA and regionally accredited universities.


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Distance Education Law Schools / California Bar official position on NOVUS
« on: September 24, 2014, 01:43:43 PM »
Dear     :

We regret to inform you that Novus Law School does not have degree-granting authority from any recognized U.S. educational entity, nor does attending Novus allow anyone to sit for any bar exam in the United States. 

A listing of schools, including online law schools, that are recognized by the State Bar of California may be found on our website at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Education/LegalEducation/LawSchools.aspx.  Requirements to sit for the bar exam in California may be found at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Requirements.aspx

Best Regards,


Office of Admissions

The State Bar of California | 180 Howard Street | San Francisco, CA  94105

(415) 538-2300 | http://admsf.calbar.ca.gov

 

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Distance Education Law Schools / July 2013 Bar Exam Results
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:33:18 AM »


http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/4/documents/gbx/JULY2013STATS.012214_R.pdf
Overall Passrates

 
CA Unaccredited 
12.6
Law Office/Judges’ Chambers
14.3
Foreign Educated/JD Equivalent + One Year US Education
12.4
Foreign Attorneys Taking the General Bar Exam3
16.1


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Distance Education Law Schools / Practice of "Law" w/out a License
« on: January 16, 2014, 10:59:47 PM »
Given that a number of DL students won't pass the California Bar - there are actually a number of ways to use your JD and practice law without out a license.

1.  Social Security Advocate - they do the same job as an attorney and collect a similar fee; only difference is that SSA does not withhold their fee like it does for attorneys sometimes.

2.  Veterans Disability Advocate

3.  Tax Court (if you can qualify)

In England McKenzie Friends can collect fees:

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/news/stories/case-studies-on-fee-charging-mckenzie-friends/?utm_source=emailhosts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PU+-+16%2F01%2F14

Anyone know of any other examples?

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Distance Education Law Schools / The World laughs at US Law School System
« on: February 04, 2013, 09:09:06 AM »
Just like our stupid inches and gallons; the ABA stranglehold on the legal education system in the US is ridculed as just plain dumb:

http://www.economist.com/news/business/21571213-could-law-schools-be-ready-change-their-ways-two-year-itch

The only ones getting rich are overpaid law professors who can't hold a job except maybe as POTUS.

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Unlike the US in which we cling to the ABA, guns, Bibles, gallons and inches, The Law Society supports alternative ways to qualify as a lawyer:

Apprenticeship route to the legal profession

10 January 2013

We have welcomed the news that the government has backed an apprenticeship route to the legal profession. We support the development and recognition of alternative routes as long as the quality of new entrants to the profession is maintained at the current high level.

Law Society president Lucy Scott-Moncrieff said:

'The Society supports the development and recognition of alternative routes, which can achieve the same standard for qualification.

'Alternative routes of entry into the legal profession are essential in order to enable new entrants to gain qualification through a modularised and work-based learning approach, since the costs of education and training through graduate routes continue to rise. Equality, diversity and social mobility are fundamental factors for the future of the profession. There are many eminent, senior and successful solicitors currently in practice who did not go to university, and this informs our own thinking currently about the various ways in which it should be possible to qualify as a solicitor.'

She added:

'This shows that alternative routes to qualification need not, and must not, undermine the overarching priority that required standards must be consistent across all routes to qualification.'

http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/news/stories/apprenticeship-route-to-the-legal-profession/

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Distance Education Law Schools / Online LLB
« on: November 03, 2012, 10:45:35 PM »
Well here it is in black and white, yes you can qualify in California and elsewhere with an online LLB and LLM.

http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/node/12648

I find it all very distasteful - New York will accept a foreign online LLB/LLM student but refuses to permit qualified California lawyers with a California online degree to take the New York bar.

With all due respect to the University of London, English law is quite different from American law.

Secondly, how can new New York justify refusing to let California attorneys take their bar because they have an online degree yet let foreign online students and lawyers take the same bar?

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Distance Education Law Schools / Orly Taitz for US Senate
« on: May 12, 2012, 10:14:30 PM »
Orly Taitz, a California GOP candidate for the US senate has been getting lambasted for quite a while due to her serial lawsuits against the President. The critics somehow blame Taft Law School which she graduated from and passed the bar. I don't see any correlation here?

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