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Online Law Schools / Re: Online PhD or LLD in Law
« on: April 01, 2016, 07:41:32 PM »
Well thanks anyway.

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http://calbarjournal.com/April2016/TopHeadlines/TH5.aspx


Law schools required to disclose attrition rates

By Laura Ernde
Staff Writer

Unaccredited law schools in California will be required to report student attrition rates under a new rule approved last month by the State Bar Board of Trustees.

The State Bar’s Committee of Bar Examiners proposed the rule to provide greater transparency and effective disclosures to students. It will go into effect June 1. The committee oversees registered, unaccredited law schools in the state and accredited law schools in California that are not approved by the American Bar Association.

Unaccredited schools were already required to disclose in writing to current and prospective students a number of things including bar exam passage rates once a year, before the student pays tuition.

Now, students will be notified in writing of the school’s attrition rates for the past five years. A Los Angeles Times report last year found that about 85 percent of students at unaccredited schools don’t finish their studies.

Trustee Miriam Krinsky said the proposal will increase transparency.

“Consumers are entitled to know what the product is they’re purchasing,” she said.

Deans at several unaccredited schools said the high dropout rates do not tell the full story. Most students that go to unaccredited schools are working adults who may decide for various reasons not to continue their law studies.

“They typically have significant responsibilities outside school, such as families, careers, aging parents, etc.,” Northwestern California University School of Law Dean Michael P. Clancey said in a letter to the committee. “For many of them, life simply gets in the way of their plans for the study of law.”

Good refund policies are a better way to deal with high attrition rates, he said.

Trustee Brandon Stallings, who cast the lone vote against the proposal, said unaccredited schools provide opportunities in underserved areas of the state and expressed concern that the same disclosures are not required for California-accredited law schools.

The board requested that the committee study whether California-accredited law schools should also be required to disclose attrition rates.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Online PhD or LLD in Law
« on: March 28, 2016, 08:53:20 PM »

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ok, I'll play this game. What is the job you have, and what is the job you want from the degree?
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Not for me, got a colleague who is a law school professor outside the US with a LLM and needs a doctorate to move up.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:43:20 PM »
Bottom line, there are plenty of people who get a JD and never practice or even take the bar.  They may end up making more money than lawyers in the business world.  In which case I'd say the JD served them well.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Online PhD or LLD in Law
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:36:06 PM »
Depends on if you are ok with some on campus trips
http://www.cps.neu.edu/degree-programs/graduate/doctoral/doctorate-law-policy.php


Not 100% what you are asking for, but still something kind of close. Why bother though? Nothing to be gained in it unless you want to go into academia and you have said before you refuse to even become a real lawyer due to wanting to stay where you were before going your JD or LLM.

You got me confused with someone else bro.  But thanks for the info, never heard of a DLP, that is something new.  Looks like these are public law type degrees, no JD required.  Yes, useful for academia or employement with a INGO.

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Online Law Schools / Online PhD or LLD in Law
« on: March 24, 2016, 05:36:42 PM »
Anyone know of any online PhD or LLD in law besides UNISA or Leiden?

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: March 09, 2016, 07:22:40 AM »
What I mean is you seem seriously ticked off about nothing in particular.  It is worth repeating that going to online school in the UK and then taking a LLM seems like a round about way to get to the California Bar unless one was trying to avoid the FYLSE.  In which case it is brilliant.  Sure one can go for a year to a bricks and mortar school too, but us online grads pride ourselves on doing it the hard way.  I intentionally dropped out of law school the first semester so I could do it purely online (though I didn't know it at the time what a brilliant move I was making).  Sure other lawyers may sneer but that would have done that anyway.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: March 08, 2016, 08:40:38 PM »

already am one.......thus why I don't hide behind the work "practitioner"

But not in California apparently - Quote from: Matthias Pavayne on February 28, 2016, 07:09:22 PM

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: February 29, 2016, 07:09:09 PM »

1. learn to quote
2. You don't know what cheating means
3. you have no clue what the CA bar rules are then either...............you idiot

That was a joke. But you'll make a good lawyer LOL.

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Online Law Schools / Re: Distance Learning
« on: February 28, 2016, 05:24:27 PM »

That just means go to one of the on campus (but still not ABA) schools for year one and then transfer online............(if that is the only reason) and you'd be exempt
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That would be cheating!  We only do online here.

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