« on: May 18, 2010, 11:34:00 AM »
The rankings are obviously somewhat accurate yes Harvard is better than GGU they got it right! I already knew that the sky is blue maybe someone should pay me for that statement.
The rankings are not worthless I just think outside out of the elite schools they are. Like the example of a football player transferring from San Jose State to Florida International University because FIU was 68th in the nation and San Jose State was 92. At either school you are going to play football and you tackle people, lift weights, run, play games, have coaches etc. If the player wanted to be in San Jose from reason he should football at San Jose if the guy wanted to live in Miami he should play at FIU. The rankings of 68 and 92 are irrelevant the guy will be good at football, but not an elite athlete that got recruited by USC or something.
Just like at any law school you are going to read, get called on, take exams. At Santa Clara or Hofstra you will do those exact things. If the person wants to live in San Jose go to Santa Clara if they want to live in Long Island go to Hofstra if Santa Clara is 72 and Hofstra is 92. Now if the person gets into Yale then f'it go to New Haven that will open unlimited doors. The difference between Santa Clara and Hofstra though doesn't really matter.
Regional rankings they might matter, but even then they screw people I know 3 people that transferred from GGU to USF and Santa Clara technically higher ranked, but they are working with their people from their 1L section from GGU. They lost scholarship money they could have kept had they stayed at GGU. Santa Clara and USF got them the same places that GGU got the transfers, except the people at GGU have less debt. The transfers can say they graduted from the 88th best school instead of the 111th, but at the end of the day who cares. If you transferred into Stanford or Berkley then yea do it, but even regionally the rankings are pretty irrelevant.
Fact is Pepperdine is a highly rated undergrad and a not so highly rated law school. That could have been any of the top schools. Not everyone is aware of who the top 10 -20 law schools are until they start researching law school options, and that is why Harvard and NYU and UVa etc have to be ranked. It's not "sky is blue" type information. You are really grossly generalizing to the point you make it seem unimportant what the top schools are.
The problem becomes when everyone wants their school to have the same impact and sex appeal as when people say the word Harvard (and there are 9 other top notch law schools, why do you always use Harvard?). And the Ivy Leagues in general is instantly known worldwide (even Cornell). There are people from backgrounds other than yours that do need to have some sense of the law school pecking order (at the top) because it matters to the biglaw recruiters and to any other firm or agency that can manage to get a top law school's graduate.
And the further one goes down the the USNews list, the lower the middle 50% GPA range gets. That is obviously a major basis for the rankings, and gives people a pretty good idea of where they should be aiming with the exception of having uncommon softs. Someone with a 147 and half a brain should be able to gather from US News that they do not have a significant chance of getting into Vanderbilt. Which is not Harvard but is certainly not a low-LSAT law school. Prior to looking at the rankings they easily might not know that because they might not have even heard of Vanderbilt before.
What the rankings won't tell them that they need to do further research and find out, is where Vanderbilt graduates tend to place. And that would not be New York.
People simply need to do a lot of cross-referencing and not rely on one source for all their answers. If some of these folks I see on the net (speaking in general here) are so terrible with research and due diligence into their own fates...why should the public bring them any business and let them help determine its fate? I can understand that schools put out misleading salary info, but in the age of Salary.com, Careerbuilder.com, and the jobs section of Craigslist and LinkedIn, it's very alarming that people who should have learned basic research and objective skepticism in science classes from primary through tertiary can't cross-reference what the school's brochure said with the going rate any given minute that you run a search for associates and attorneys with 0-2 years experience. In any state.
Hell they can go on careerbuilder and sort the search for lawyer or attorney by state to see which state needs them most these days, among other sorting tools.
The schools shouldn't have to tell people to do this. They spend half their lives online and only waste their lives on it instead of making it work for them.